Yes, I meant seat stays. I assumed it as much. Thanks for the explanation

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Maybe Phillip Kim meant seatstays.  Those are bent, to accommodate the 
> super cool seatlug, which was initially developed for one size of big stout 
> bike.  At that time, they hinted that seat lug might get used on a second 
> bike that comes in sizes.  Turns out the multi-size bike came first.  At 
> that time, Grant indicated that he would get around the single seatstay 
> exit angle by lengthening the chainstays as the bikes got bigger.  Now, 
> he's decided that all sizes should get long stays, so he did the curvastays 
> instead.  It's all good.  
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
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>>  Are we sure OP isn’t mistakenly calling the bent seatstays “chainstays”?
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
>> *On Behalf Of *dougP
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:04 PM
>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem
>>
>>  
>>  
>> "  The chainstays are not perfectly straight in the horizontal plane. 
>>  They jig-jag a bit to get around the fat tires and to clear the pedals."
>>
>> Bill: Are the chainstay bends similar to the ones on the Atlantis?
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:43:49 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>  
>> I didn't see Grant when I rode the Clem.  I am not sure I follow which 
>> bend you mean.  The chainstays are not perfectly straight in the horizontal 
>> plane.  They jig-jag a bit to get around the fat tires and to clear the 
>> pedals.  Is there some other aspect you are looking at?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Now they say the $700 pre-sale ends on April 1.  Do you think that will 
>> coincide with a fun April Fools Day trick? 
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>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>>  
>> I noticed the chainstays have a slight bend to them. Did you happen to 
>> ask Grant why that was?
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 3:21:27 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>  
>> I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem.  I've 
>> always felt lucky that I'm pretty much exactly Grant-sized.  Turns out 
>> today I got to ride Grant's Clem prototype, and didn't even have to change 
>> saddle height.  It's terrific.  It rides how I expected it to ride, meaning 
>> it disappeared, made me smile, and made me reluctant to return it to them.  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> I don't know if I will pre-order, but if I do, the $150 they are paying 
>> me to adopt early will go towards a set of Bosco Bullmooses.  That's the 
>> bar for that bike.  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Bill Lindsay
>>  
>> El Cerrito, CA
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