Dan, i sent an email directly to you
Kathy
On Mar 30, 2015 10:32 AM, "Dave C" <david.charles.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's sounds like a good offer.
>
> I have never uses the Hetres, but I currently am using the 32 mm GB
> Cypres, and I really do like them a bunch. I have been using them on fire
> roads in my area, and I think they have been very versatile and have a nice
> ride. When my wife's Glorius is in need of new tires, I will get her the
> Hetres, even though the Col de la vies are fine. In fact, I can't say for
> sure the Cypres is any better than a non-TG Pasela, but I think it's good
> to have the options that didn't exist a decade ago.
>
> Does anyone know if the Cypres tires have been empirically compared to the
> Paselas with any conclusive results?
>
> And has the new 650B Pasela been tested by anyone yet (assuming it is out)
> and compared to the Hetres?
>
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:47:17 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dan, Was that offer meant for me rather than Kellie?  Hetres?
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2015 9:41 AM, "Dan McNamara" <djmcn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you
>> want. I bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might
>> be better put to use.
>> >
>> > I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could
>> arrange something.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Kellie <kellie.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the
>> tires I would consider?
>> >> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of
>> Justice on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in
>> Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is
>> googling) led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they
>> are more expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a
>> Rivendell (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more
>> than I ever thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to
>> say, quite frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works
>> out pretty good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on
>> vacation right now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to
>> justify a lot.  So I want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot
>> under good conditions.
>> >>>
>> >>> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is
>> what I will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire
>> with).  I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I
>> don't mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and
>> over, since I only have one bike to use the tires on.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at
>> least some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed
>> off to take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow
>> made a wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that turned
>> out to be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride than the
>> Joe Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip).  And since
>> we didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the end of trail
>> sign we kept going because there was still a trail and we obviously weren't
>> where we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail because a pretty
>> gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown Sebastapol and even met up
>> with someone on the way that did it on purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it
>> was a great day and very fortunate we took the wrong trail.  So I want to
>> be able to ride easily and deal with whatever comes up (without getting off
>> to walk too often).  And no sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the
>> others in my group don't.
>> >>>
>> >>> DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my
>> son quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and
>> will review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The pannier
>> on my bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few
>> hours.  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the
>> tires I would consider?  I'm getting such a great opportunity to ride
>> different places while we're here that I'd love to make the swap sooner
>> rather than later to maximize my fun.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 4:47:33 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds
>> of light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's
>> even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly
>> puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds and Challenge Parigi Roubaix in
>> goathead land where I'd get a thorn flat literally every couple of miles.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm with you; I can't stand stiff, sluggish tires; I'd rather fix
>> flats. But modern sealants have squared the otherwise impossible circle.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Kellie <kellie.s...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tires do change easily but they can also be an expensive
>> experiment. I'd give the Tour Rides a little more time and get really
>> familiar with your Cheviot. I also had the Tour Rides on my Hillborne. I
>> didn't like them; they felt "stiff." That's when I switched to the GB
>> Cypress, which are supple and buttery smooth. Some complain of flats with
>> them but I haven't had a one for over a year. Even rode a 50 mile day on
>> some light gravel with them. They're now planned to reside on my new to me
>> Saluki I'm building. The Cypress' also started on my Cheviot, but then I
>> wanted more tread and thicker tires for grip/comfort on the dirt trails.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:46:57 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Tires change easily. Try the tires you want to try and see if you
>> get faster and/or have more flats.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> With abandon,
>> >>>>>> Patrick
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 3:25:00 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> My son is a member of this group, rides several rivs and is the
>> reason i have the cheviot with 650b 42 tires. Specifically, he was
>> concerned with the continental tour rides they put on it. Riv response is
>> you don't go fast when you get flats.  I get that, but you also don't want
>> to be lagging behind in the herd of rivs.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Haven't had a chance to even show my new bike to my son yet.  But
>> my husband seems to be riding faster than me and that's not the plan
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2015 2:16 PM, "dougP" <doug...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> "I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my
>> son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? "
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> In my experience, people who tell me my tires are slow & heavy
>> don't have much experience with good quality chubby tires.  The impression
>> of big tires being slow is often based on experience with cheap MTB
>> knobbies or beach cruisers.  If your son is riding narrow high pressure
>> tires it's no surprise this would be his opinion.  I'd say to ride the bike
>> as-is & see how you feel about the speed.  I think Grant wrote about riding
>> with people who wouldn't leave you behind.  Our children, OTH, can be a
>> special case.  If he's that fast, tell him to circle back.  He'll get more
>> miles in that way.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> dougP
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not
>> looking for extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging
>> behind.  50cm cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires
>> it came with cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this
>> group?
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