I was just out swapping handlebars (thanks Hugh!) and had to pull a Wald basket to do it. I noticed that the stays on this basket are definitely different than the ones on the bike that collapsed on me. Those stays had a much larger (~four inch) flat section with multiple hub drillings on the end of them. That's where it buckled on me. The newer kind that I was just looking at have a solid curved stay all the way down to the single hole at the end. I'm presuming they are much stronger.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I can vouch for the truth that the Wald Newsboy doesn't sway; it's very > secure. As to how the bike handles with such a basket on it, with load, > that depends on the bike. I once put one on a Schwinn World Tour and loaded > it with 2 cinderblocks, which fit very well in respect of volume. I > actually managed to ride the bike a block before quitting in terror -- > simply keeping the rear wheel on the ground was hard. But the basket didn't > sway; the problem was grossly biased weight distribution and horrible > things done to the steering. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:57 AM, ian m <darkgizz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Will, how is sway from a heavy loaded front basket a function of bicycle >> geometry? Seems to me it's more a function of the way the basket attaches >> to the bicycle, which are two points near the stem and two point at the >> front axle, which doesn't make for a particularly laterally stiff design. >> >> Similar to the American newsboys of yesteryear, the French porteur's >> carried heavy loads of newspapers on the front of their bicycles, but with >> stiffer steel racks. In my experience a heavy load on a one of these racks >> is much easier to handle with all other aspects (wheel strength, pneumatic >> cushion) remaining the same. A basket attached to the rack as on the >> Hunqapillar recently posted on Riv Blug is like the best of both worlds, >> especially since heavier loads can be attached by pannier closer to the >> front wheel's axle. >> >> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 9:10:11 AM UTC-7, Will wrote: >>> >>> Not my experience. We routinely carried between 65-70 newspapers in the >>> Wald front delivery baskets. And loaded the back baskets on Sundays when >>> the papers were twice as large and heavy. Never a problem. Swaying is a >>> function of bicycle geometry, wheel strength (spokes+dish), and pneumatic >>> cushion. Our paper bikes looked a lot like these... >>> >>> http://www.worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/indbikes.html >>> >>> When you look at the "industrial newsboy" you will note both baskets >>> (front and back) are angled towards the frame center. You will also note >>> the head and seat tube angles and chain stay length. That's the way to keep >>> load distribution inside of the axles. If the balance point creeps outside >>> the axle, you have major vibration issues. The bike shimmies, wobbles, and >>> is hard to steer. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 12:54:16 PM UTC-5, ian m wrote: >>>> >>>> Loaded up with a couple grocery bags those Wald baskets will sway back >>>> and forth in front of you like a drunk tourist on a fishing boat. Ziptied >>>> to a solid and stable rack there is zero movement and handling feels good. >>>> That's my experience anyway >>>> >>>> On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 8:16:26 AM UTC-7, Will wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You could simply mount the Wald as it is manufactured. I had these on >>>>> my newspaper bikes back in the day. They are bullet-proof, heavy haulers. >>>>> I >>>>> cannot imagine that a basket ziptied to a rack would be more stable or >>>>> durable than this original Wald set-up. Wald is working-class cred. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.waldsports.com/waldsports/cache/file/459BD3F9-3E6A-4C02- >>>>> 8626D7A8CBA30A5A.jpg >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:10:36 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No, I can't trade my awesome Pass & Stow rack for a smaller front >>>>>> rack and a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter >>>>>> too often and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the >>>>>> porter rack is so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of >>>>>> porter racks feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass & Stow is otherwise >>>>>> excellent and the maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, >>>>>> and >>>>>> these things must be questioned. >>>>>> Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass & Stow and the >>>>>> whole thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of dandy-ism. >>>>>> So >>>>>> why is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same >>>>>> rack. >>>>>> The same Cap'n Hook net. >>>>>> One cheap beat up basket. >>>>>> Time to order a Wald. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > > ************************************* > *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu > > *Kinei hos eromenon. 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