Wait. You got 10,000mi from an ISIS bottom bracket? You should win an 
award. Those are pretty well-known for eating bearings in the wet, or even 
in Semi-Arid climates.

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 11:06:59 PM UTC-6, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear WETH,
>
> The NDS crank is toast given how much time you've spent mashing on it 
> loose. If It won't stay tight, it is trash/recycling. The bb is 
> fine--hardened steel doesn't tend to deform much when it is mated poorly 
> with aluminum. 
>
> Next time, grease the tapers, crank it TIGHT (that's 40 n-m, or as tight 
> as you can make it with a peanut-butter wrench) and snug the crank bolts 
> back to torque (a torque wrench is helpful, but hellatight with a 9" wrench 
> is about right) after your first weekend riding. 
>
> Carry a suitable wrench (either an 8mm hex key, or a 14 or 15mm PB wrench 
> depending on your bolts) until you're confident the NDS has settled in. 
> Resist the urge to keep snugging up the bolt--you can split the 2deg 
> taper....
>
> Best,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:26:25 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>>
>> Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I 
>> took it off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why? 
>> Long version: really it is too long: 
>> Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last 
>> week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose 
>> and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt 
>> had not fallen out.  Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex 
>> wrench large enough to fit the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I 
>> could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten 
>> the bolt a bit more.  A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again.  I 
>> repeated by previous repair.  This happened twice more before I was able to 
>> make it to work.  Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills 
>> and coasting down them, which would have been fine.  I wasn't late and it 
>> wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office 
>> had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a 
>> trouble free ride home. 
>>
>> Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened 
>> again.  This time I had the tool and tightened it. 
>>
>> About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off 
>> both crank arms to clean and inspect. 
>>
>> Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt 
>> interface?  Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had 
>> no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as 
>> this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a 
>> Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) 
>>
>> Several other questions for the "MacGyvers" and engineers to satisfy my 
>> curiosity: 
>> 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex 
>> wrench?   
>> 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash 
>> fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does 
>> it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? 
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
>> Houston 
>> PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. 
>>  I did have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of 
>> favor with the cycling gods. 
>>
>

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