In the MTB world Schwalbe is known for making fast (low rolling resistance)  
but relatively fragile tires. Here in SoCal many mountain bikers who enjoy 
bombing down gnarly downhills eschew them because of their relatively low 
longevity, even with Snakeskin or Super Gravity enhanced construction. 

Thunder Burt is the fastest Schwalbe tire available for XC MTB racing. It's 
what a pro would choose for trying to win the XC gold medal at the Olympics (if 
she wasn't running something more exotic like a tubular). 

Loaded backcountry touring is way way off the intended use grid for Thunder 
Burts. Not to say it is a bad idea, just that (many/severe) flats are to be 
expected. 

Snakeskin only means more durable sidewalls, not additional puncture/cut 
protection under the tread. 

Sealant will only seal punctures and small cuts. 

I really like Schwalbe Evolution line XC tires like Thunder Burt and Racing 
Ralph for trail riding (and even more delicate tires like Compass Babyshoe Pass 
and Pacenti Pari Moto). I'm willing to accept a much higher risk of flats and 
limited tire lifespan to get that sweet ride. I carry spare tubes and tube 
patches and sealant and a tire boot patch. 

For a multiday off-road bikepacking with Thunder Burts carrying a spare tire 
would be a good idea. I've read that you can fix major casing cuts in the field 
with a needle and dental floss plus shoe goo, but I've never had to try that 
yet. 

- David G in San Diego 


> On May 25, 2015, at 3:42 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, wonder what the carried weight amount was. Bummer that they
> didn't hold up as hoped for...
> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Mark & his buddy Graham were rolling with the snakeskin's. But yeah they're
>> race tires not originally designed for loaded touring. I'm bummed to hear
>> how they didn't hold up, still gonna ride with em, even though Mark's
>> experience...at least for now.
>> 
>> ~Hugh
>> 
>>> On May 25, 2015 1:25 PM, "Mike Schiller" <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The TB's are considered a "race" tire by Schwalbe.  I would only use the
>>> Snakeskin version for extended off-road touring.  They are wonderful tires.
>>> 
>>> I've been using Panaracer Comets recently, less supple but more durable
>>> and roll pretty good on pavement.
>>> 
>>> ~mike
>>> Carlsbad Ca
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