I will chime in here as I have other places in proclaiming the greatness of the Nitto RM013, AKA Rivendell dirt drop, AKA MB1 drop bars. I have these in both the recently rediscoverd standard width, 48cm at the tips, and an older wider set, 52 cm at the tips. I have run the wider ones on my Rawland for over a year, it sees mixed terain, weekend grocery hauling, single track, etc. I think of it as my disc braked Hilsen. I like the narrower ones on bike with a higher percentage of pavement time. And have a set still in the plastic waiting for the Roadeo. I have run Noodles, Mary, Midge and Mungo (moustache) bars on many different setups and keep coming back to the RM013. While the midge bars provide better leverage on the trails I find the confining for long rides. The Moustache bars end up in places where I can not get the drops high enough without a rediculous stem.
I am probably going to regret my pontifications on these no longer made bars, but I figure if I can generate the demand, Grant my do a run. Ask to see a set when you call in or visit them, I belive there are more than a few sets on the staff bikes. I am still getting my act together an dwill have pics up this afternoon. Rob On Nov 8, 8:13 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > Actually I found a fault w/ off-road drops: the front of my lower arm > (right above wrist) is bruised on both sides from banging up on the cross > section while riding in the drops. While bumping around on the trails > yesterday, I had to move around so much and so quickly at times that my arms > got jammed pretty bad times. They're pretty sore this morning from that. > > I'm gonna' go back to the Gary bars, > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3088358794/>and if those don't > work out, back to the M-bars. Salsa is coming out with the Woodchipper > <http://www.salsacycles.com/amigos/2009/10/interbike-follow-up-new-woo...>model, > which has a shallow drop and rel wide flare, so that's an option for the > near future as well! > > David > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 8:02 AM, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have noodles on my bombadil for exactly that reason. I think the > > bullmoose bars would be good for mountian bike riding where you're > > probably not going to be out all day. But on the other hand, I > > don't think anyone would disagree that the 46/48cm noodles are sweet > > off-road. > > > On Nov 8, 9:52 am, Todd Olsen <todd_ol...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > regarding the narrow question of bullmoose vs noodle, when I bought > > > AHH, Keven advised same thing. More hand positions with noodle. So I > > > got noodle. i still wanted to try moustache, so i purchased pair 2nd > > > hand from another list member. This is true, with noodle there are > > > more hand positions. about 5 total. i will probably stick with the > > > moustache for a while longer just to be sure, but i believe i will end > > > up switching back to the noodle. > > > > todd olsen > > > > On Nov 7, 9:26 pm, Orthie251 <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > I'm new to the list, but I've been following it daily for the past > > > > couple of weeks and have to say I've learned a lot about Rivendell and > > > > steel bikes in such a short time. I am new to the whole Rivendell > > > > philosophy, but discovering it has saved my cycling. For the past 7 > > > > years, since moving to the San Francisco Bay Area from Venezuela and > > > > taking up road riding in addition to mountain biking, I've never been > > > > able to ride without pain. To shorten an otherwise long and familiar > > > > story, in the beginning of the summer, tired of paying for fits and > > > > changing bike frames with no real results, I discovered the Rivendell > > > > website and poured all over it. It was radically different to anything > > > > and everything I had read over the years, and when I discovered they > > > > were located less than an hour from my house, I decided to go and > > > > check them out, to see what they and their bikes were all about. > > > > > I drove to Walnut Creek, spent about an hour or a bit more there > > > > talking primarily to Mark, tested the A. Homer Hilsen, the Sam > > > > Hillborne and the Atlantis, and drove back with an AHH frame (61cm > > > > Waterford) after waiting for Mark to install the headset, as well as > > > > some parts like 2 stems to fine tune the fit (100 & 90cm), the Noodle > > > > bars (48cm), Cane Creek brake levers, Nitto S-83 seatpost and a front > > > > Mark's rack. Rick adjusted my rear road Chris King hub from road to > > > > mountain spacing and dished it. > > > > > I have built the AHH with the Sram Rival 10 speed components I had on > > > > my Gunnar CrossHairs but went with the Sram 10 speed bar end shifters > > > > to preserve the character of the bike and to try them out as I'd never > > > > used them before. I also installed a Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Brooks > > > > brown saddle and bar tape, Honjo hammered fenders (40mm) with Schwalbe > > > > Marathon Supreme 35 tires and a few other details. > > > > > After riding the AHH for the past several weeks, I cannot begin to say > > > > that not only have I been enjoying it extremely and have had no pain, > > > > now I blame Rivendell for making it impossible for me to ride all my > > > > other bikes! I've already sold the Gunnar CrossHairs (58) and the > > > > Cannondale F600 (medium), and I'm seriously considering selling my > > > > recently put together Specialized Roubaix SL2 with Sram Red > > > > components. It pains me to get rid of all of them, but after riding > > > > the AHH, getting back on these bikes only serves to highlight how bad > > > > the fit was. > > > > > Inevitably, I take another drive to Walnut Creek to discuss this > > > > situation and what I'm feeling with Mark, and Keven joins in. After > > > > translating my wishes into cycling lingo, I test ride an Atlantis (60) > > > > and a Bombadil (60) after re-checking my PBH with Mark, and place an > > > > order for a new Bombadil frame. You see, I have this dream of touring > > > > and camping with my bike, but I don't really know how or if I'll ever > > > > make it happen. I also have a 2009 Titus FTM Exo-grid titanium, 140mm > > > > trailbike, but am beginning to consider going mountain biking with a > > > > steel rigid bike as well. I'm not planning to sell that one just yet, > > > > I think all that travel still has a purpose in my life, but if I want > > > > to build up the Bombadil with all the parts I want, selling the > > > > Roubaix would certainly cover that and more... Do I really need a 16.5 > > > > lbs high end carbon bike when I have so much fun riding the 27 lbs > > > > (fully racked) AHH on the road? Who cares if I'm a tad slower when I'm > > > > having so much fun, even on the climbs? The Roubaix SL2 is a very nice > > > > bike, but I can't get the handlebars high enough! > > > > > BTW, I'm turning 50 in January and am also overweight, but so far have > > > > lost 23 lbs this year. Still another 60 - 80 to go, and I can't think > > > > of any better way than to continue to watch what I eat and commute > > > > every day on my AHH... > > > > > Keven and Mark both agreed that I should get the Bombadil frame > > > > painted and not raw with the powder coat, as the wet paint will last > > > > longer and protect the frame better. I like the raw look when it's > > > > new, but have had bad experiences with powder coated paint coming off > > > > very easily from the Gunnar, so I agreed. > > > > > So many color choices... green and gold, blue and gold, Keven showed > > > > me two painted Bombadil frames they have (not in my size) in silver, > > > > and they look very nice. When I said I loved white bikes (my Gunnar > > > > was all white), he showed me the 48 Bombadil frame they have in Cream > > > > with Gold, and I just melted. I said that is the color combination I > > > > want. We also discussed getting the Bullmoose bars painted to match, > > > > but even though they felt very comfortable for the short test ride > > > > there, I'm not sure how I'd like them for longer rides. Mark says he > > > > prefers the multiple hand positions from the drop bars. > > > > > I have until Wednesday morning to finalize my decision as Keven will > > > > not be in until then, so here are my questions to the group: > > > > - Is the AHH a good replacement for the Specialized Roubaix for me, > > > > not a racer, not a club rider, just interested in metric centuries, > > > > centuries and eventually as I loose weight and gain fitness, longer > > > > rides? > > > > - I am really into commuting, which the AHH is great for, and just > > > > discovered what the term S240 means. I really want to explore that > > > > dimension of cycling, but with a family (wife doesn't cycle) and work, > > > > I just don't know how I'll make that happen, so the Bombadil is the > > > > expression of that dream, but is it right for me or would a Roadeo be > > > > more indicated for riding those centuries and if I ever manage to go > > > > camping/touring with my bike, the AHH would fill that need? > > > > - If I go with the Bombadil, should I spend the extra money on the > > > > Bullmoose bar or should I save it and go with a Noodle bar or perhaps > > > > a moustache bar? > > > > > Decisions... decisions... > > > > > My apologies for the long rant... :-) You can check out some pictures > > > > of my AHH athttp://tinyurl.com/yjptb5q > > > > > René Sterental (Orthie251) > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. 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