Kelly, I recently posted a very positive review of my new bike rack. 
Titled, I think, 1UpUSA and Rivs.  Photos here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

Michael

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 9:04:56 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote:
>
> I have been looking at bike racks lately.   I've been very happy with the 
> Thule double with tope tube hook.  The padding and such doesn't leave marks 
> and has been a great tool over the last couple of years.  ( 
> http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-doubletrack-2-bike-990xt-_-5776509
>  
> )  We have been looking for a new one and I found this swagman.   ( 
> http://www.swagman.net/product/quad-22 )  which I really like as it will 
> do what my Thule does and lets me add two more bikes.   We often tour with 
> another couple so on the Van this would be a great setup for travel, I 
> think .  
>
> So things I look at... 
>
> Will with mount without pushing down on fenders...   check
> is it safe for paint..                                                     
>   check 
> easy access to rear of vehicle                                     not so 
> much / NO if bikes are on it. 
>
> I've used hanging racks and without pipe insulation to protect the tubes 
> they have not worked out well for me.   
> The other up right racks tend to need to come down about where my front 
> rack is or onto of the fender to hold it securely 
> The downtime racks don't like my third water bottle cage.   
> Roof racks are just too too much trouble when connected and disconnecting 
> the dyno hub a taking the wheel off.. yes I'm spoiled and lazy. 
>
> Note on the swagman my plan would be to mount lights on it for brake turn 
> etc when four bikes are on there traveling.. it sticks out a long ways.     
>
> I haven't bought anything yet but overall looking at the wheel trays... 
> the 2+2 approach etc I haven't found anything as solid and useful as the 
> swagman..    
>
> Kelly
>
>

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