Take you for a ride any time you're around and inclined. 

it's off-putting from the major roadways but the surface streets and roads 
are from the 1800s layout, human scale not cars. Fun in the daytime or at 
night with lights.

Andy Cheatham 
Pittsburgh

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 12:13:38 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>   That's about it Patrick, as their is no perfect way to measure such 
> things .  It's more than just infrastructure .   Do hills and climate 
> matter ?   Minneapolis is great for cycling , it always has been dating 
> back to the 80's at least .  But not for 4 season riding, not to me .  It's 
> not just cold , it's damn cold and the sun isn't so warm in winter there.  
> Pittsburgh ?  I was surprised to see it even mentioned really . I live near 
> there, not in the city, but having been there many times , I'm glad I don't 
> have to ride there , no offense intended either. You see, it's "my" 
> subjectivity here of what makes for bike-easy . The big Cities are huuuuuge 
> geographically anyways, so how can such a "whole" really be measured 
> anyways as people generally stay in certain areas and stay there. 
>
> I take all the "ratings" thing as just more "stuff' that doesn't really 
> say anything of value to me. 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:14:41 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I wonder how accurate and consistent the rating is. I see that Santa Fe 
>> is rated Silver and Albuquerque and Las Cruces bronze. What are the 
>> criteria? Are they consistent?
>>
>> The points listed under each city aren't the same; ABQ's % of street with 
>> bike "facilities" isn't included; only Las Cruces' profile is included; 
>> they list two different populations for Albuquerque,  448600 and 565000. 
>>
>> I've not spent much time in Santa Fe in the last decade, but what I've 
>> seen is that, because of Santa Fe's very congested condition, cycling on 
>> roads involves considerably more crowding with cars than it does in 
>> Albuquerque.
>>
>> *I wonder if the ratings are not rather "mechanical" -- tabulating 
>> certain features against miles of road or population -- rather than 
>> reflecting the real ease or lack of ease of real-world riding in an area.*
>>
>>
>>

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