Found it, From: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/rivendell/ahomerhilsen.html
"TUBING: Lightweight butted heat-treated CrMo steel. When Waterford makes the frame, it's a mix of Reynolds and True Temper. When Toyo (in Japan) makes the frame, it's Japanese tubing that is every bit as good at least, but not as well-known. Basically....we're talking about a fine steel bike here. If your frame size is between 57 and 58cm, choosing between the A. Homer Hilsen and the functionally identical Saluki is tough, but despite their being separate models with different identities, both share the same, identical functional qualities, and what one can do, the other can do equally well, exactly." But still if you really want to know, its probably best to just call RBW. On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 2:31:13 PM UTC-8, ted wrote: > > Though I cant find where, I recall reading that if your bike came from > Japan it was made with Japanese tubes that were every bit as good but less > well known than the ones in US built bikes. But your best bet is to call > them up and ask, I expect they would be happy to oblige a proud owner who > wanted to know a bit more about his bike. > > On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 12:16:56 PM UTC-8, Steve Cole wrote: >> >> I'm wondering whether anyone has any insight into the tubing used in the >> early years' Toyo edition of the AHH. I proudly own one. >> >> Steve Cole >> Arlington, VA >> >> On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 7:33:21 AM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote: >>> >>> In the recent post >>> "The healing power of the bicycle a Rivendell story." >>> the link to the story showed a Sam with a Tubing Sticker on the seat >>> tube giving the tubing mechanical properties: yield stress (70 ksi) and >>> ultimate tensile strength (UTS, 103 ksi). >>> >>> Does the AHH have such a Tubing Sticker and if so, does it provide >>> either the yield stress or the UTS values?? >>> >>> Such information is rarely provided on a sticker. Got to give RBW a >>> definite positive for providing the values. The values indicate a 4130 >>> steel with stress relief, similar to a True Temper Versus steel tube. >>> >>> John Hawrylak >>> Woodstown NJ >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.