I have used Ultegra 9speed that I didn't like much for their hand shape, or 
lack thereof. I switched to Campy 11 speed that matches perfectly with 
Shimano 9 speed derailer and cassette. I like them a lot in spite of my 
aversion to Campy in general. But when I get on my LHT with downtube 
friction 8 speed, I wonder why I fuss with brifters. I like riding a 
fretless bike. So far this season I keep choosing the LHT for road rides 
for its downtube friction shifters (and fenders, and load carrying 
capacity).

Joe Ramey in GJT

On Thursday, December 10, 2015 at 9:05:33 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> I find myself re-thinking my allegiance to bar-ends, because I sweat 
> so much between May and September riding here in Texas, that I gum 
> them up fairly regularly. 
>
> Then something like this comes up. 
>
> http://www.nashbar.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?partNumber=YS-ST4600-BASE&catalogId=10052&storeId=10053&langId=-1&utm_source=nashbar&utm_medium=email&utm_content=151210Th&utm_campaign=Products&cm_mmc=Email-_-nashbar-_-151210Th-_-Products&cm_em=jim.bron...@gmail.com&spMailingID=12498453&spUserID=NjA1MzcwOTY2NDES1&spJobID=643355659&spReportId=NjQzMzU1NjU5S0
>  
>
> And I find myself feeling conflicted.  This is only a little more than 
> what Riv sells bar-ends for... 
>
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