On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 11:37:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> If one is trying to decide between an Atlantis and a Sam Hillborne, 
> isn't the answer a Joe Appaloosa? :) 
>
> It does depend on the context of what the OP is trying to achieve.  The OP 
has posted on another thread where a retailer close to him has a demo 
Atlantis on the sales floor in a size that might be appropriate.  So, just 
guessing, it sounds like the OP is considering going to ride this demo bike 
and is curious whether a small Atlantis will be preferable to the small 
Hillborne that he already has.  I can't tell if he wants to conclude that 
his Hillborne is just as good as an Atlantis (because it is), or if he 
wants to conclude that the Atlantis is much nicer (which it is) and 
therefore justifies him upgrading from a Hillborne to an Atlantis.  Maybe 
(and best of all), maybe he wants to conclude that the Atlantis is 
sufficiently different from his Hillborne to justify having both in his 
stable (which it is).  

I happen to have both a Hillborne and an Atlantis (and will have an 
Appaloosa very soon).  I don't have them set up the same.  The Hillborne is 
setup as a sporty road bike with Barlow Pass tires, and I sometimes make it 
into a sporty cross bike with Rock and Road tires.  My Atlantis is set up 
as a classic loaded touring bike.  Set up the same, I think they ride about 
the same, like a Rivendell.  I think the Atlantis looks a lot "nicer" and I 
appreciate the costly details in the Atlantis, and in a way I appreciate 
the clever cost saving shortcuts on the Hillborne.  I think it's great to 
own them both.  My opinions are not necessarily relevant to the OP, though, 
for two reasons.  One, I don't know the context, what he wants to conclude. 
 Two, my bikes are both 700c, while his small Hillborne is 650B and his 
small Atlantis will be 26".  So he has differences that I don't have. 
 Furthermore, my Hillborne has cantilever brakes, his does not, etc.  

So my answers to the OP two questions are:

1.  Same
2.  Yes

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