RBW put me on a 61 Homer with an 8cm stem and Noodles and I couldn't tolerate the extension after a while. Then put me on a 60 Bombadil (my fault for thinking I wanted 700c wheels so I could swap them between my bikes - in hindsight should have gone one size smaller with 659b tires but didn't realize it). Put Noodles with dirt drop stem on Bombadil and again, even though the bars were higher I felt too stretched. Was suggested I put Albas to address the longer reach, but since the standover clearance felt too tight for dirt riding, I opted to swap it for the 58 Hunqapillar which felt perfect. Never used Noodles on the Hunqapillar, just all variations of Bullmoose bars, Bosco, etc. got my Atlantis sometime after getting the Hunqapillar, cannot remember how I rationalized it, but got a 61 instead of trying the 58. Same issues with horizontal reach, so tried multiple bars until I found the so far perfect Elysees bar that I'm currently riding.
With the weight loss and improved fitness, managed to ride the Homer again with the Compass Randonneur drop bars made possible by "discovering" Nitto had a 5cm stem. Unhappy with, but so far not a terrible issue, the toe overlap. Yes, you can get used to it. Yes, it always makes me curse when it happens. Rationalized getting a Betty shortly thereafter by saying it was for my daughters. They've never ridden it. Keven wants to out me on a 60 but I insisted on getting a 58 650b. Amazing fit, never put Noodles and tested several bars successfully before settling on the MAP bars. Could have used the Elysees as well, but wanted a different look. No issues whatsoever with toe overlap even though I have fenders. So, would the reach have been better on the smaller Atlantis or Homer? Probably yes. Would the toe overlap been worse? Don't know, never tried those sizes... Low trail fork took care of the toe overlap on the Atlantis and customized its ride to my preferences. Lessons learned: - what you think is correct today will change in the future, so don't be stubborn. - reach is more important than height. Err on safe reach even if more seat post will be shown. Long quill stems add even more flexibility to the vertical adjustment as long as reach is ok. - toe overlap can mess up the whole system if you don't tolerate it. - with the weight loss (still 40+ lbs to go), I can lean forward just a bit more and found myself also lowering the handlebars a bit. Roughly at or slightly above seat level for now. - review lesson #1, I'm sure I'll think differently in a few years. - go with what you think is true today and/or try to experiment. René On Friday, March 11, 2016, Justin August <justin.aug...@icloud.com> wrote: > It seems as if Riv tends towards a 1-sizing-fits-all situations sizing > philosophy on their frames regardless of intended application. I think it > behooves the rider to make some choices about their own preferences and > keep those in mind when seeking counsel from Riv. While I love my Saluki at > 58cm (I think...I'm bad with memory) - I get a little worried about > dismounting when off-road and would not buy a purpose-built off-road bike > with that limited amount of standover. > > -Justin > > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: >> >> For reference, I have a 58cm Atlantis and Riv put me on a 61,and said I >> could maybe even get away with a 63. I'm very happy on my 58. With 2"-plus >> tires, I have very little standover height at all. Ultimately I decided on >> a 58cm because it let me use a stem length I prefer. I'm running a 110cm >> stem with Noodles and everything feels 'right'. So I've got an extra >> centimetre of seatpost showing...who cares. It still doesn't look >> undersized and definitely feels great. >> >> I think there's definitely some room to move between sizes with Riv, to a >> point. If I only did paved touring, I'd probably prefer the bigger frame >> size. For a more all-rounder style, I prefer the slightly undersized frame >> with more room for me to move. >> >> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 7:24:11 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote: >>> >>> The short of it is: the 58 is working very well. >>> >>> My body is a bit odd, I believe. I'm 6'3" with a 905 mm PBH. Shorter >>> than average legs attached to a longer than average torso (or maybe my neck >>> is just long). Initially, I thought this would mean that the top tube would >>> fall short and I'd desperately hope for extra reach. But this has not been >>> the case with the setup that I prefer: albastache bars on an 8 cm dirt >>> drop; bars just below saddle height. I think this has to mean that my neck >>> is long... >>> >>> My recommendation for those on the cusp between sizes that want to buy >>> new now or used: if you're running drops or an alternative bar with a bit >>> more reach like the albastache, go with the 58; if you're running >>> albatross, chocos, boscos, etc., go with the 62. >>> >>> But my real recommendation is: wait a couple more months for the new >>> Hunq to come out. Rumor has it there will be a size 60 in the lineup with >>> even greater tire clearances than the current iteration. >>> >>> Hope this helps someone out there. >>> >>> Best, >>> D. >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:35:23 PM UTC-5, Keith Muller wrote: >>>> >>>> Daniel, >>>> >>>> What bar/stem combo are you going to run with your Hunqapillar? I have >>>> a 62 Hunq and run it with a bullmoose bar. I have a 98.5cm PBH, I'm >>>> 6'2"ish and the bike fits me like a glove. If you are a 90cm PBH and are >>>> running a bullmoose bar, a 58 will probably feel great. If you a running >>>> an Albatrose bar, you would be fine in the 62 as well. Just my two cents. >>>> >>>> Keith >>>> >>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 6:48:50 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If so, what were your reasons, was it the right choice, and what is >>>>> your PBH and height? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks folks. >>>>> >>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');> > . > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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