well this has succeeded in making me take another look the products. i saw some in a store, several years ago, and was pretty turned off by the awkward gusset, padding/double thick areas, and a few other details that i thought defeated the purpose of a non-cycling cycling pant. from their page, it looks like they have ditched those aspects in favor of a more normal looking design, which is cool. i was gonna get some swrve pants, but i might try these instead.
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