The Grand Bois Hetre is renowned for its longevity and relatively low flat
rate.  I use the regular version and it's cheaper than the EL.  I never
heard of anyone regretting the use of these tires, although maybe someone
here will prove me wrong!

Toshi


On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:17 PM, ian m <darkgizz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Living in Pittsburgh, PA these both look like the roads I ride daily,
> along with some nowhere-near-level brick and thrashed cobbestone streets
> thrown in for good measure. I think the smoothest surfaces I ride often
> tend to be the trail shortcuts through the large city park I live next to.
>
> Interesting responses in here so far. The Thunder Burt stands out as a
> tire I would never have thought to look at. Unfortunately the 650b hasn't
> really made any inroads here yet so I have basically 0 options for looking
> at tires aside from the stray 27.5 MTB knobby that a couple shops might
> stock. Lots of fat tires though! So experimenting with a half dozen
> different models of tires I have to mailorder for $100+/pair is not a
> feasible option for me.
>
> The supple vs. strong dichotomy is exactly what I'm hoping to get beyond.
> It's the in-between I'm interested in. I'm a light, non-aggressive rider
> and rarely get flats. I haven't flatted a Schwalbe in who knows how long
> and have only pinch flatted the Jack Browns running too low PSI.  I don't
> plan on replacing those until they wear down to the tube. Also, what makes
> them "stout"?
>
> Longevity though is one of the deciding factors for me. It's kept me from
> getting a set of Bruce Gordon RnRs and also from Compass and the
> Pari-Motos. I'm not interested in an "event tire" no matter how nice it
> rides. I need something that will stand up to time in the saddle more than
> I need something that will protect me from poor road conditions.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 10:08:49 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/22/2016 06:27 PM, ian m wrote:
>>
>> But would I notice the same change if I went from the light Jack Browns
>> on my SS to Compass tires?  I would like to upgrade from the bottom of the
>> line wire bead Schwalbe's currently on my Clem (mostly because they have a
>> wobble in the bead) to a lighter "all road" 650b. How does one compare the
>> supple-itude?
>>
>>
>> Ride on chipseal and badly alligatored pavement, something with a nasty
>> coarse surface that looks like this
>>
>>
>>
>> or this
>>
>>
>>
>> You'll feel the difference right away.
>>
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