Same here. I gave up padded gloves a few years ago. For me, being able to fully 
grip the bars is more important than padding; padded gloves and padded tape 
make it harder to wrap my fingers around the bars.

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> On Apr 24, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Even with bar 3 cm below saddle, I find padding less important than "grip." I 
> do like a bit of padding, but Lezyne's thinner handlebar tape is padded 
> enough, and the Lezyne is desirable as much for its "feel" and grip as for 
> the minimal padding. (Note: Lezyne wears faster than some other, less 
> comfortable tape).
> 
> I switched to another recommended brand when the thinner Lezyne on my '03 
> began to wear out after a few K miles, and while it is as thick or thicker, 
> it lacks the "grip" and nice feel of the Lezyne -- it feels "slippery."
> 
> I ride without gloves, except in winter, and would judge that even a double 
> layer of cotton tape would feel good to my hands.
> 
> Patrick Moore, who remembers the cheap vinyl stuff from the 1970s, in ABQ, NM.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 3:36 PM, John Hawrylak <john.hawry...@verizon.net 
> <mailto:john.hawry...@verizon.net>> wrote:
> From the RWB website, Handlebars/Accessories/Cork Tape,
> 
> "What about the cush factor of cork vs cloth?
> When the handlebar is high enough, you'll be comfortable grabbing pure steel, 
> because your hands aren't carrying weight. When the bar is too low, even the 
> cushiest tape is like spitting on a camp fire."
> 
> I pretty much agree, I use Newbaums, and the Nitto Noddles (B177) are 10mm 
> above the sadlle.  My only complaint with the cotton tape is it wears faster 
> than cork.
> 
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
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