Patrick, She veered to the left when realizing I was stopping, her right brifter lever glancing the fender left of center, leaving a 3" crease in the aluminum. Something in her lever let go from that and no longer worked as new.
I installed my 40mm VO fenders rotated an additional 3" rearward to cover more wheel since I'm in rain and wetness often. My flap goes down pretty low to keep the spray off feet and drivetrain. Foil tape over the pre-drilled hole is fine, but I do note the forward discharge from the wheel getting me wet more in this configuration ue to the shorter forward projection. My lesson from that is that only the rolled metal can structurally reach forward and give cover from forward wheel spray, any shortage of length on the rear can be managed with an added flap, as long as a nominal amount of fender is back there. The flap cannot be hanging on the rear of the wheel. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 11:08:27 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Jitensha has complete instructions for Honjos: > http://www.jitensha.com/eng/honjinstl.html > > (They also have some geared hubs, and some nice old shoes if you wear > 37-41, on remainder.) > > Andy: what happened to the other rider's CF bike, to make it inoperable? > And you came away with a slight dent in the fender? > > FWIW, the once or twice I've used VOs, the coverage was very complete -- I > didn't even need a mud flap in front, as the fender came down to 3" or so > from the ground -- this a 700C X 35 fender on a 700C X 29 tire. > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 5:04 AM, ascpgh <asc...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> I have both. Honjos on my Rambouillet, VO Zeppelins on my commuter and >> that's been a perfect distribution based on each's particulars. >> >> Honjos may not be the best for a first time installation unless you are >> careful, useful with your tools and have finished all your other chores (I >> got mine undrilled, with all the parts from a list member). Used Jan >> Heine's article in BQ as my instructions. Thin, light and quiet. Pricey, >> unless sourced as I did, but really do have a good visual result. >> >> The hammered pattern has a small crease on the rear where a >> plastic-go-faster goober rear ended me with a brake/shifter at a stoplight >> downtown (head aero-tucked and intention to run the light to preserve a >> Strava segment record?). Her bike rendered inoperable as a result. Honjo >> vs. brifter? Fender won that time not needing adjustment to ride on. >> >> VOs came with holes drilled, parts and instructions. After having learned >> on the Honjos, these went quickly. I did redrill the front one to rotate >> more fender behind the wheel so I didn't need a foot long flap for best >> spray protection. Thicker metal, bigger stays, a bit less coverage length >> than comparable Honjos, but quiet and half the price. Have taken the >> bashing of year round commuting, parking in racks and a couple of spills >> with aplomb and no visible damage. Whatever negatives they may have are >> lost in their performance of function. >> >> Honjos if you want light, longer, precise placement of that coverage, >> don't mind the cost for more refined aesthetic and feel handy enough after >> reading the BQ article. >> >> VO if the utter weight is less of a concern, having them prepped for your >> installation is attractive, and don't mind the difference in length to the >> comparable product. You still have to install them. Even if you intend to >> just take them to a bike shop, don't. >> >> Read how to and install your fenders yourself. You will have more acuity >> of the details, appreciation of the fender line and exactitude of the >> execution than a shop mechanic would and every time you ride this fact will >> revisit and torture your soul. This applies unless you patronize a very >> informed, Bob-like shop that can swim out of the mainstream and remain >> fiscally pertinent while acquiring knowledge and skill in bizarre low >> frequency subjects like low trail, hub generators, fenders, bags and racks, >> etc. >> >> Andy Cheatham >> Pittsburgh >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
