+1 on the SON hubs. All my bikes have them, except for the Homer at this
time.

The R14 is great if you're just going to use a Medium/Large Saddlesack. For
panniers, even small ones it won't work. I have one but not mounted now. I
just ride my Homer with a small Trunksack in the front on the Mark's Rack
for light stuff like wallet, keys, phone, and use an Acorn Large or Medium
Saddlebag, depending on the season.

Honjo fenders is the way to go, I don't like the plastic ones.

I also agree that the original Waterford blue is the best color for the
Homer; just as the original Waterford green is the best color for the
Atlantis. Toyo frames for both have a different shade, but I find the
Waterford colors so perfect that when I repainted my Atlantis, I just went
with the same color and personalized it with the panels. In fact, I believe
that all the original colors for all Rivendell bikes with the exception of
the Hunqapillar gray/plum are perfect. Choosing a color for a custom
bike/paint job is so hard... And you don't always like it long term as much
as you thought you would...

After a very excruciating process and change of hearts, I decided to go
with silver for my custom. It will have polished lugs. When I repainted my
Hunqapillar my final debate was between silver and pewter. I chose pewter
and even though I liked it a lot, there was something "missing" after a
while. So I'll go with silver this time and hope the feeling it evokes
lasts just like the Homer and Atlantis colors have. Even the Betty.

Based on what you said for your cockpit, plus your choice of the Compass
Rando bar, I'd suggest going with 2x10 barends. Like I said, that setup
works much better than the 3x9 (with barends) I had before on my Bike
Friday. I will recommend going with the XT 772 rear derailleur that can go
up to 36 and works perfectly with the 10 speed setup while looking more
classical and less black and weird like the MTB 10 speed derailleurs do. If
you don't need to go up to 36 like I do, there are other choices.

Enjoy!

On Friday, May 27, 2016, Tim Butterfield <timbutterfi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Will,
> I had looked at the Shutter Precision dynamo, but hadn't see the stock
> wheel with it.  Thanks.  I also looked a the Peter White page Riv links to,
> which is where I found the SON I mentioned.  I wonder if there is much drag
> difference between them.
>
> As for the Tubus Logo Evo, it seems more oriented to touring, which I
> have no plans to do.  The light mount aspect is interesting, though.
>
> I am definitely planning on a set of Pitlocks.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Will <waller.will...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','waller.will...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Consider a Shutter Precision dynamo. Riv sells a wheelset using it.
>>
>> Consider a Tubus Logo Evo for the rear rack. Very good rack, fits Ortlieb
>> panniers, carries weight lower, and is set up for the best rear dyno
>> powered light: B&M Topline.
>>
>> Consider Pitlocks for the wheels and seat post.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:44:09 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, my component choices just got a bit more complicated.  Isn't that
>>> what always happens?  It might not be quite as roadish as initially
>>> anticipated.
>>>
>>> The problem was I got to thinking of future uses as has been mentioned
>>> before.  That thinking can often cause these problems.  I expect my AHH to
>>> arrive sometime in August.  Just a few months further down the calendar,
>>> winter will be starting.  Here in Anacortes, that means it is getting dark
>>> earlier.  If I want to do any riding after work, I'm going to need
>>> lighting.  With the whole ride being in the dark, I don't want to have to
>>> keep recharging batteries.  See what's happening here?  It's like the thin
>>> edge of a wedge.  :)
>>>
>>> If I'm not using battery lights, that means a dyno hub.  Now, I'm into
>>> custom wheels also.  Might as well do the rear, too.  This little detour
>>> has added these to my tentative build list:
>>>
>>> Busch&Muller IQ-X headlight (black)
>>> SONdelux Wide Body Dyno Hub 36h
>>> Phil “Rivy” Rear Hub 36h
>>>
>>> The winters are wet here, so I might as well add these:
>>> SKS/ESGE LongBoard Silver Fenders
>>>
>>> Well, I'm almost there anyway.  What about racks?  This isn't full
>>> touring, though.  So, let's keep it light with these:
>>> Nitto Mark's Rack M1 - 20108
>>> Nitto R-14 Top Rack
>>>
>>> Less than six months after getting the AHH, it's role has already
>>> progressed beyond my initial guess.  It's not quite as roady as first
>>> thought, but probably more usable.
>>>
>>> These are just my initial guesses at my options.  Feel free to convince
>>> me otherwise.  I can always use an education and reasoning on options will
>>> help reaffirm choices.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for all of the assistance.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Tim Butterfield <timbutt...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been thinking of getting a Rivendell bicycle for a long time.  I
>>>> first joined this group to lurk back in 2010 and have been a member and
>>>> sometimes lurker since then.  But, I had not made the commitment and
>>>> purchased a Riv.  The closest I came was getting a Velo-Orange Rando.  That
>>>> was sort of rivish.
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/timbutterfield/sets/72157624827193423
>>>>
>>>> Being in the suburbs of Chicago near O'Hare airport limited my comfort
>>>> using it the way it should have been.  That bike was sold before I left
>>>> Chicago to live full-time in an RV.  Once we decided to settle in
>>>> Anacortes, WA (still in the RV), I purchased a Specialized AWOL Comp,
>>>> definitely not rivish.
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/timbutterfield/sets/72157644371355428
>>>>
>>>> It's a nice bike, but I now want something more rivish, this time, the
>>>> real thing.  I'm thinking of getting either the Roadeo or the A Homer
>>>> Hilsen.  I like the idea of the liveliness and sportiness of the Roadeo,
>>>> but like the bit of extra versatility of the AHH also.  With my weight at
>>>> 200+ (PBH 33" or 83.8cm, age 51), I'm leaning towards the AHH instead of
>>>> the Roadeo.  I can start more roadish with the AHH and, as I build my
>>>> abilities further, expand the bike to fit new and/or different tasks
>>>> without having to change frames.
>>>>
>>>> So, I'm fairly settled on getting my first Riv, one of the two
>>>> mentioned.  My pondering now is mostly on how to appoint it.  My Rando was
>>>> more modern with the 105 setup.  The AWOL was definitely modern with discs
>>>> and SRAM setup.  But, I'm not tied to that.  Though I haven't used it much,
>>>> I like the looks of a quill stem, drop bars, and downtube shifters.  It
>>>> looks clean and simple.  I'm just not sure what it's like to live with.  I
>>>> expect that, like many things, it is a matter of adapting to it.  But,
>>>> using DT shifters or bar ends does set a direction as neither would work
>>>> with an 11-speed I could have instead.  I'm trying to consider the pros and
>>>> cons of each.
>>>>
>>>> With my AWOL, I leave it locked to the cabana just outside my RV.  Some
>>>> RVs have sufficient inside storage for a bike.  Mine doesn't.
>>>>
>>>> My questions to the group are these:  As I am not yet doing longer
>>>> distances, are there still benefits to the more traditional setups?  If I
>>>> pick either one, what might I later miss the other may have provided?  Are
>>>> there likely to be any weather related or other wear issues leaving a Riv
>>>> locked to the RV park cabana like I do my AWOL?  I'm doubtful of that, but
>>>> don't want to mistreat it either.  Any thing else I should consider?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any advice you have.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
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