Well, I'm certainly not Jan in terms of skills and abilities. I just checked the map and decided to reserve the choice to do the shorter version, especially if the PM loop isn't really suitable for the smooth tires with fenders.
Thanks for providing the route and maps. That's very helpful. René On Saturday, June 11, 2016, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rene, > > Yes the Atlantis would be my choice, though sans fenders and obviously > lowish tire pressure. If you can I'd mount knobby tires, my recollection of > the PM loop is rutty with baby heads but Jan always proves that a supple > tire can do amazing things, so I'm not gonna say it can't be done. I've > been rolling the TB's Tubeless and where a supple tire would eventually > flat I haven't had any problems for months. > > ~Hugh > > “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep > moving.” ― Albert Einstein > > http://velocipeedemusings.com/ > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 11:06 PM, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','orthie...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> Ha ha ha ha!!! Good to know! >> >> Both of them run smooth Compass tires with metal fenders; 35mm on the >> Homer and 38mm on the Atlantis. Based on what you're saying, I think the >> Atlantis would be better, would you agree? >> >> >> On Saturday, June 11, 2016, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hughsmit...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> Depends on the setup of each of your rigs. If the atlantis has chubby/ >>> knobby tires and you're going to do the PM loop that's what I'd bring. I'm >>> planning on riding my 1995 Salsa Ala Carte with Schwalbe 2.1 Thunder Burts/ >>> tubeless. >>> >>> Didn't you just do the Tahoe loop? Ah 72 miles and 3800' I think you'll >>> be fine on this ride. No one's going to try and break any land speed >>> records. No rider left behind spirit. Lots of photo op's, read that as rest >>> breaks, regroups and scenic viewpoints. >>> >>> ~Hugh >>> >>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep >>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein >>> >>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 9:32 PM, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is this a ride better suited for the Homer or for the >>>> Atlantis?Assumingn can do it all? May have to bail out as outlined >>>> previously. Might be too much climbing for moi. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks! I will. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> René, glad you can make it!!!! There is a big lot at Pantoll, but it >>>>>> fills up on the weekend. The ride is starting early, so shouldn't be a >>>>>> problem. I think it's $8 for day/24 hr parking. From the lot at Pantoll, >>>>>> it's two miles to the Inn, so budget time for that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's the route to the Inn: https://goo.gl/maps/aK7V9Zo2Tex >>>>>> This is what it looks like for most of the way: >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/23752943436/in/album-72157661872299170/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 5:13 PM, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Marked the location. Is there parking there? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. From Palo Alto. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rene, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you coming from Sacramento? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here's the route >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Sacramento,+CA/Panoramic+Hwy+%26+Pan+Toll+Ranger+Station/@38.0235462,-122.5581331,11.5z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x809ac672b28397f9:0x921f6aaa74197fdb!2m2!1d-121.4943996!2d38.5815719!1m5!1m1!1s0x808591a0140b73a3:0x95ccbb8b5ec2c308!2m2!1d-122.603996!2d37.904499?hl=en> >>>>>>>>> to Pantoll Ranger Station. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~Hugh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must >>>>>>>>> keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 4:32 PM, René Sterental < >>>>>>>>> orthie...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If driving on Saturday, can you tell me or send me a Google map >>>>>>>>>> location to know where to park? I don't know the area. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016, David Stein <davecst...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, correct…coming up Saturday ;) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You mean to say you're coming up Saturday. Look forward to >>>>>>>>>>> seeing for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ~Hugh >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must >>>>>>>>>>> keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 3:26 PM, David Stein < >>>>>>>>>>> davecst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Looks awesome but I won't be staying Friday and plan on coming >>>>>>>>>>>> up Sunday. I may try and meet you at the musuem and ride bike if >>>>>>>>>>>> you have a >>>>>>>>>>>> loose time frame of when you'll be there, but more than likely >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll just >>>>>>>>>>>> head up old railroad grade mid to late afternoon to make it for >>>>>>>>>>>> dinner if >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone wants to join me for that (will either drive and leave from >>>>>>>>>>>> mill >>>>>>>>>>>> valley, or ferry over to sausalito and ride up from there). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Curtis McKenzie < >>>>>>>>>>>> cmcy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hugh, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign me up for this one. Thank you for planning this. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Curtis >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016, Hugh Smitham < >>>>>>>>>>>>> hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay in responding. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since I haven't gotten really zip for feedback regarding my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest route update I'm going to presume that the route is a go. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that feel the full 43 miles would be too much I suggest taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>> San Geronimo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ridge just before mile marker 12 which will cut out the Pine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mountain loop >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but will cut out 9 miles, you still get the Repack descent and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet up at the Museum. To take in account the time differential >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> head to Fairfax early can grab a bite to eat in town while the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mountain crew eat out on the trail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In terms of time I think a 8am roll out would work. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us 9 hours to ride visit the museum and get back to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Inn around >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5pm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How's that sound (crickets) to ya' all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Hugh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Sean Lerner < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seansler...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are y'all thinking the ride on Saturday will roll out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping to ride up from SF in the morning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 11:16:20 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Helps to have a link >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14327220>. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Hugh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Hugh Smitham < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hughs...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay how does this look? More Miles still steep but no 40% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ascents. Real steep down hills off the peak and again down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repack. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Hugh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:37 PM, René Sterental < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orth...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 40% maximum grade? You've got to be kidding me! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016, Hugh Smitham < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hughs...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think my post to the original got buried. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to throw out this ride as a potential Saturday >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride from the Inn and back with a stop at the Marin Museum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bicycling. At >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first glance it looks like a formidable ride 32 miles and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6200' elevation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but we have all day to do this ride. I purpose we bring a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lunch with us and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eat out on the trail. Of course not all are up for a ride >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like this. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage folks to chime in with a plan "B" and "C" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> route(s) maybe a bail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on my route where we all meet at a specific time at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> museum for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tour and a really mellow ride staying closer to the Inn. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without further fanfare here's the route >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://ridewithgps.com/routes/13946582>. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your thoughts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Hugh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Los Angeles, CA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this 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