for reference my PBH is 78cm, I'm 5'6", and abuot 145-150lb.

On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:24:45 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've rode/owned all those bikes you've mentioned at one time or another. 
> IMO, the San Marcos is just the ticket. It handles the same as the Sam, but 
> made of heat treated, and lighter tubing. So it's just as stable, but a 
> more "spirited" ride. Still can carry a good load (I've hauled about 15lb 
> on a basket up front no problems), and has brazeons for a rear rack. At the 
> end of the day though, the San Marcos is more of a road bike, and I think 
> it would be perfect for your commute. I used it commute from DC to VA and 
> it's mostly uphill for about a mile into Virginia. Climbs better than the 
> Sam Hillborne and Cheviot, IMO.
>
> I have the same PBH and the 51cm is perfect size. Don't size down, if 
> you're using it for road use, no need for too much standover. The sloping 
> top tube will get your handlebars up nice and high. The 47cm will be too 
> small, and the reach to the handlebars will be a bit cramped because of the 
> slacker headtube angle and sloping top tube. The way the top tube and 
> angles all work, it can easily be changed from drop to upright cockpit. 
> I've found 70-80mm stem with drops are nice, and 110mm with Albatross 
> handlebars work well for me.  If you're planning on using Albatross bars, 
> definitely don't size down.
>
> Mine is outfitted with Hetres, which are a dream to ride. Though for more 
> pure pavement use, the Compass 650bx38's feel a bit faster (i'm sure it's 
> just in my head as commute times were the same), and will work better under 
> fenders.
>
> I used to have a Sam, sold it for a Chev out of curiosity. Eventually sold 
> it for a San Marcos because I put an order in for a Hunqapillar and seemed 
> like too much overlap. Hunqapillar is now my only bike, but gave the Soma 
> to my girlfriend, so it's easily accessible for me to ride.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 10:00:22 AM UTC-4, PineTarSoap wrote:
>>
>> I would like to get my first Riv bike. I mainly plan to commute with this 
>> bike (17 mi roundtrip, hills) and do the occasional road ride. I have a 
>> neck pain issue and I am hoping a more upright position and fatter tires 
>> will help. I have a nice carbon road bike for fast rides, but I would like 
>> to mix in a bike with a different position to take stress off my neck. I 
>> don't plan right now on doing any off-road riding or touring.
>>
>> I have tested ridden the Hunq, Cheviot, and Sam. They were all fun, but I 
>> thought the Sam probably seemed the most appropriate. But I didn't get a 
>> chance to ride a Soma SM. The Riv description is that is like a more well 
>> rounded Rodeo, which seems to fit what I would use it for. I suppose a 
>> Rodeo would as well but at more cost.
>>
>> Questions:
>> 1) Does the Soma sound like the right choice for me?
>> 2) Do they still sell this frame? If you google search it, the Riv page 
>> is the first listed, but you can't find it on their frames page.
>> 3) My PBH is 78 (just) and so I guess I am in the 51 cm range, however 
>> the 51 cm Sam didn't leave much crotch room. Would a 47 cm work? Seems odd 
>> to me that the size down from 51 is a big jump to 47.
>>
>

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