You're thinking of the Romulus and Redwood, which were complete, slightly 
cheaper versions of the Ram. One cost-cutter was they were one color..no cream 
fills on those frames. A Romulus was my first Riv, which I bought from a shop 
in Danville, CA. The next QBP venture was the Bleriot, which was a cheaper 
Saluki/Homer.

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