One more, after perusing the photos again: this is one of the prettiest and most interesting frames I've seen!
On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh! And I'm glad you posted the photo of the fender cutouts -- I am > shortly going to do something similar to the 50 mm Berthouds to get them to > fit the fork of my '03 Riv Road. > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks for these additional photos; some of the details I missed before >> are quite striking -- the dropouts, for example. I wish I'd thought of the >> SON hub-light connection system for my Matthews. >> >> I see the hangar. My "Ls" are mounted considerably higher, but this is >> valuable primarily for a fixed drivetrain, which has to derailleur to hold >> the chain off the ground. But the Matthews (9-sp) has the same thing anyway. >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 12:22 PM, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Here's a small update on the rear fender line adjustment, as well as the >>> tubing & geometry specs. Also added some more photos with additional >>> details: >>> >>> @Patrick, I took a couple of photos of the chain hanger on the inside of >>> the right rear seat stay so you could see it. >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/28752232741/in/album >>> -72157672057814225/ - scroll to the right for the new photos. >>> >>> Added photos from the bottom bracket shell with its integrated cable >>> guides that I didn't notice until last night, the details of the front and >>> rear dropouts, which I think are just gorgeous, and the fix I did to adjust >>> the rear fender line. >>> >>> This bike came with Wabi-Sabi... whether on purpose or not. As you all >>> know, getting the fender lines to be perfect is quite time consuming, and >>> when on top of that you have to fabricate a rack that has to match the >>> exact curvature of the fender, it gets even trickier. You can see from one >>> of the photos I posted yesterday that the rear of the rear fender angled >>> away from the wheel, and since the wheel has the tan sidewall, it became >>> very noticeable when I took the photos. On first inspection it wasn't >>> noticeable at all, especially since the fender line seems to change all the >>> time depending on the angle you are looking at the bike; only when looking >>> at the rear wheel head on, aligned with the rear hub, did it become >>> obvious. So I had to do something about it, which also meant that I would >>> add my little "personalization" to the build. 99.9% Steve Rex + 0.1% René! >>> >>> I spent all afternoon thinking about it, what could I do, what options >>> were there, and came up with the following two options: >>> - Remove the bolts that attach the fender to the rack, adjust the >>> curvature of the fender per Jan's instructions, and see how far off the >>> fender is from the rack; hopefully, the distance can be addressed by adding >>> some washers, more on the rear rack stay and less on the front rack stay, >>> so the fender can be attached again but this time holds the correct fender >>> line. I proceeded to do that and took some photos to send Steve to discuss. >>> - The second option I came up with was to adjust the fender line as >>> above, and then have Steve drill a new hole on the bottom plate of the rack >>> where it attaches to the top of the rear dropout. I figured that this would >>> allow the rack to pivot around the seat stay braze-ons and though tricky, >>> would allow it to adapt to the fender line. >>> >>> I called Steve to discuss these solutions, after telling him that this >>> was just me trying to improve an aesthetic element, and that put in >>> perspective of the whole bike, it was a super minor detail, but at the same >>> time, with such a work of art, I wanted the fender line to be OK. He >>> quickly dismissed my second option, stating that I had overlooked the fact >>> that rotating the rear rack downwards would tilt the horizontal bag stays >>> down, which would be worse aesthetically. I had totally overlooked that >>> detail and immediately agreed. He approved my plan to add spacers to the >>> rack stays, and told me that once I had made the adjustment and had the >>> thickness needed, he would make me a couple of custom extensions so it >>> would be smooth and match the rack. I loved that idea! >>> >>> So, this morning I proceeded to do that, and found that I could get the >>> fender line corrected by using the valve locknuts and a thicker leather >>> washer I had bought some time ago, whereas the front rack stay just needed >>> a thin leather washer with the valve locknut. This is a perfect solution, >>> and next week I'll call Steve so he can fabricate the custom >>> washers/extensions so it will look even nicer. >>> >>> While I was on the phone with Steve, I also asked him about the tubing >>> he used. He said all the tubes are True Temper and gave me the following >>> specs, which I did my best to capture accurately: >>> - Top Tube: .9-.6-.9 - 28.6mm >>> - Down Tube: .9-.6-.9 - 31.8mm >>> - Seat Tube: .9-.6 (the BB lug doesn't require the tube to be thicker on >>> that section) - 28.6mm >>> - Chain Stays: Round-oval-round - .8 >>> - Seat Stays: .7 - 16mm >>> - Fork: Kaisei "Toei Special" Fork Blades sold by Compass, I believe. >>> >>> This means that the frame is more like my Atlantis than my Homer, at >>> least in terms of tubing thickness. Since I'm not planning to load it as >>> much as I'd load the Atlantis, I guess I'll have to compare it to both the >>> Homer and the Atlantis once I ride it. And I still have plenty of weight to >>> lose... >>> >>> Here are the geometry specs to fine tune the frame for my fit: >>> >>> - Head tube angle: 72 deg. >>> - Seat tube angle: 71.5 deg. >>> - Seat tube length: 60cm C-C >>> - Top tube true horizontal length: 58.6cm >>> - Top tube inclination: 2 deg >>> - Head tube length: 20.8cm >>> - Seat stay length: 55cm >>> - Chain stay length: 46cm >>> - BB drop: 67mm >>> - Fork Rake: 70mm >>> - Fork Trail: 35mm >>> - Stand-over height: 84.9 (per spec, I haven't measured it with the >>> Compass Babyshoe Pass tires yet) >>> >>> I'm glad you've enjoyed the report and the photos! >>> >>> René >>> >>> >>> > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > ************************************************************************** > ************** > *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu > > *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the > world revolves.) *Carthusian motto > > *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart > > *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle > > > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. 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