Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

When I first started looking into building up my own bike, I visited an LBS 
and in conversation I casually mentioned RBW being an influence and the 
owner grimaced and said something to the effect of "stay away from those 
Rivendells......".    About a year later, I was in there again and he was 
showing off his new Salsa that he chose for the frame material being steel 
and the chainstays longer.....for comfort.       

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I rolled my Rambouillet  into a shop in LA once to see about a tune up.  
The owner spotted my bike and said something like, "I see you fell for the 
hype..."  And...he was a gray haired guy, not some hipster punk.

Oy...



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