Patrick, try Nikwax on the leather mud flap, top of Brooks saddle, etc. The 
Nikwax will help make it near waterproof (for a while) and won't attract 
dirt. Works great on my hiking boots (which do spend a lot of time in the 
wet) and my Brooks saddle.

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 2:32:51 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks. The install has been improved since that post.
>
> The Berthoud flap is my choice; but our "monsoon" season (9" average/year 
> citywide; 14" near mountains, 5" at extreme westside) is running out and I 
> may just wait and see if I can't find a cheap pair of boots or a cheap 
> leather bag at Goodwill and make my own.
>
> I did this with one of the earlier Honjo fender sets for this same bike, 
> some 5-6 years ago -- I amputated some 4" off the bottom of the front 
> fender to avoid interference with our bus bike racks, then overcompensated 
> with a huge10" long and 8" wide leather flap, home made. I greased it so 
> heavily that the stuff still rubbed off on my fingers after 2 years or so 
> of use. The trouble with so much grease is that it picked up fine grit, and 
> the thing was always slightly disreputable even after the bike was cleaned.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Ryan Fleming <ryanmallo...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> grease up the berthoud mudflaps...they should be fine...your fenders look 
>> good Patrick...don't obsess :)
>>
>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 10:22:35 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> The Berthoud certainly looks likely. I could grease it up well with bear 
>>> or hog grease and I daresay it would live out its normal lifespan. Perhaps 
>>> cheap axle grease would work, too.
>>>
>>> On my short list. I may be able to scavenge leather from a used pair of 
>>> shoes; must visit Goodwill.
>>>
>>> I'll chance the wind resistance. My previous flaps have been excessively 
>>> wide and long.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:05 PM, René Sterental <orth...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've gotten some wide Honjo mudguards; they're thin and light so the 
>>>> aluminum fenders can support them. I ordered them from Boulder Bicycles.
>>>>
>>>> On my Atlantis with its 50mm steel Berthoud fenders, I have the Brooks 
>>>> leather mudguard and a while back had the Berthoud, which was even 
>>>> thicker. 
>>>> I never stopped to think about it, but now that you mention it, that must 
>>>> be the reason I'm slow. The darn mudguard is creating too much wind 
>>>> resistance!!!
>>>>
>>>> BTW, a flexible mudguard might actually increase the area of coverage 
>>>> upwards, assuming your fenders are long enough. If they aren't, then you'd 
>>>> need a stiffer one to essentially elongate the fender.
>>>>
>>>> René "now I know why I'm slow" :-)
>>>>
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