I have a 58 persimmon (orange)/white rambouillet with 650b, 42 red Hetres 
that fit well. I haven't tried a fender yet.

Michael Allen

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 6:32:46 AM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Orange/white 
>
> > On Sep 21, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > 
> > On 09/21/2016 09:10 AM, Alan Lavine wrote: 
> >> A 42 x 650b definitely fits a Ram frame, at least on mine it does.  I 
> can measure the BB height if it helps. 
> > 
> > What color is yours? 
> > 
> > 
> >> Alan 
> >>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On 09/21/2016 08:54 AM, Lungimsam wrote: 
> >>>> I measured my bb height on my Rambouillet with 700x28c tires. I will 
> compare it if I try 650b to tune in the closet tire equivalent I can fit, 
> then see if I can keep the same bb height at 650b. 
> >>>> 
> >>> This is very unlikely.  A 42mm 650B wheel + tire has about the same 
> outside diameter as a 700Cx23 wheel + tire, and it's even questionable as 
> to whether a 42mm 650B will fit a Rambouillet frame. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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