Indeed. All the discussion on locks is meaningless compared to the actual 
experience police departments have had removing locks on abandoned bikes. 
Cheap U Locks are as worthless as cable locks. Expensive U Locks are 
slightly better. But there is more to bike security so read the discussion 
if the subject is dear to you.

Bill in Roswell, GA

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 10:25:50 AM UTC-4, Big Clem wrote:
>
> This entire discussion is worth reading:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/lock%7Csort:relevance/internet-bob/lCLlgmSub40/hjFOn9AEAwAJ
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 9:08:02 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has 
>> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than 
>> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday 
>> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a 
>> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On 
>> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the 
>> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and 
>> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun, 
>> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I 
>> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack. 
>>  Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for 
>> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the 
>> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this 
>> Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight 
>> loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (
>> https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500
>> ).
>>
>> Any suggestions?  
>> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front 
>> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
>>
>

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