Bill is right.

That is what happened when I order the kit.  The shifters and pods were
added to the kit list but they all had zero dollars, except the kit. I get
mine Monday.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Not exactly true.  You do need a different shifter washer thingy for
> bar-end setup vs downtube setup, but when you buy the kit, you get BOTH.
> Put item #17089 in your basket and you will see what I mean.  When you buy
> the bar-end KIT in your basket, all it does it put a set of downtube
> shifters in your basket (which has the right washer thingy for downtube)
> and it puts a set of bar end pods in your basket (which has the right
> washer thingy for bar-end setup).  You can use them either way and you have
> a set of extra washer thingies for setting them up the other way later.
>
> If you bought a complete bike with barend shifters and want to move them
> to downtube, then you'll need to go buy the right washer thingies.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 1:03:50 PM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote:
>>
>> If you buy the bar end kit you should buy the "little travel stop
>> washer thingy " to go along with it for downtube use. Riv sells that
>> piece separately. It is round with a tab that stick out and a square
>> hole that fits over your frame boss.
>>
>> On 11/4/16, masmojo <mas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> > A few things:
>> > First, yes the bar end Silver Shifters are basically the same thing as
>> the
>> > downtube shifters, with the bar end pods. But,it should be noted that,
>> the
>> > bar end pod replaces the little travel stop washer thingy that cones
>> with
>> > the Silver Shifters when ordered in the downtube configuration. So it's
>> the
>> > same, just different.
>> > You could use the silvers on a 10 speed cluster, if you have a suitable
>> > derailleur, but you might want to use something like the Wolftooth
>> Tanpan to
>> > handle the needed additional cable travel. I personally just used the
>> new
>> > Dia-Compe 11s shifter that VO is selling, downtube & shifts smooth as
>> butter
>> > with the XTR derailleur.
>> > I have the SS1s on my Drakkar & I love'em, but they do stick out rather
>> a
>> > lot when mounted on bar pods and I have nastily poked people (not on
>> > purpose) with them while riding the train. I  welcome the new
>>  compacty,
>> > ergoness!
>> >
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