What about a vigorelli?

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On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> $600! That is nice, and it's affordable. My brother recently bought a
> Black Mountain monster cross frameset (forget name) and that too is nice,
> especially given that he paid half of what I paid for my Matthews, and that
> Chauncey charged between half and 1/3 of what he should have charged.
>
> Thanks for the tip. One more to seriously consider.
>
> I recall one day, long long ago, when my nephew was 4 years old (he's now
> 25 or 26 and earning a lot more than I), taking him to KMart, and telling
> him that he could choose *one* toy. He slowly walked up and down the
> action figure car shelf, carefully considering each package, and murmured
> solemnly to himself, "So many choices!"
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Chris <fourf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So, I didn't see it mentioned so I'll mention it...  Mike Varley at Black
>> Mountain Cycles.... His Road is fantastic bike in the Riv Road-esque bike
>> and for a great price...
>>
>> May not tick all your boxes, but is a fantastic bike!
>>
>> http://blackmtncycles.com/frames/road-frames/
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> If you wanted the signature Rivendell road ride, but couldn't afford
>>> another custom or the Roadeo (and didn't want the Ram -- tried one), and if
>>> you thought you might look for an old road racing frame from the '70s, what
>>> would you look for? 120 mm OL spacing.
>>>
>>> After trying out, once again, the S3X hub on the gofast, the hub gear
>>> wheel idea being a quick-swap way to adapt this bike to occasional longer
>>> and hilly rides, I find that the lash is a deal killer. So I want a frame
>>> to build a bike around my AM hub.
>>>
>>> I'd probably give any such frame to Chauncey to have him remove unneeded
>>> braze-ons (like icky derailleur bosses and hangar), and have him braze on
>>> needed ones, like a roller boss at the seat tube junction and a housing
>>> stop mid-top tube for the trigger cable housing, and then have it powder
>>> coated.
>>>
>>> I did have a decent 1973 Motobecane 2nd level Record, and that was close
>>> to what I want, but it wasn't cigar level; it didn't handle quite like my
>>> Rivs.
>>>
>>> (I am tempted to give Chauncey my gofast, and tell him: "Replicate
>>> this." But that would be at least $1200 -- cheap at the price, but more
>>> than I ought to consider at this point.)
>>>
>>> (Wouldn't it be lovely to have a customized Roadeo, 57 for me, without
>>> the derailleur bits?)
>>>
>>> Ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, who just again rode the gofast with 95"/71"/59" S3X in
>>> windy ABQ, NM
>>>
>>> Aside: As I turned north onto Corrales Road on the way to Stevie's, with
>>> wind blowing from the south, I shifted into the 95" and bowled along
>>> merrily -- until the road turned and the wind quartered and my cadence
>>> dropped like a stone. How much better the ASC would be: you could have that
>>> downhill and tailwind gear at say 80", and at 90% have a 72" cruising and
>>> at 75% a 59" climbing -- though they say that the ASC also had lashings of
>>> lash. The AM, with direct + 11.55% and - 12.5% would give one, say, a 70"
>>> direct, a 78" high, and a 61" low -- very usable gears, not to mention
>>> coasting.
>>>
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> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
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> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
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> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
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