Two more essential comments: one, no I don't want to use multiple gears and,
two, I **love** fixed gear climbing, really! Certainly better than slogging
angrily on the flats or spinning vainly and despairingly downhill.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Related, perhaps, knees-and-cycling question. In the last year or so my
> riding area has changed and I spend more time on shorter, steeper hills
> instead of long, gradual climbs. Since I ride fixed gears, this means I have
> been learning and adapting physiologically and mentally to standing for
> longish distances: half a mile is very common, and there are 1 mile sections
> that I encounter. During yesterday's 20 miler I stood for (I measured it on
> the computer) a total of four miles largely in 1/2 mile increments. 66" gear
> but a heavy, heavy-wheeled bike. Other bikes at 69" and 70 or 75", but much
> lighter with much lighter wheels.
>
> Sometimes, as yesterday, climbs coincide with loads and headwinds.
>
> I know that pushing the 75" gear seated for the 7 miles of gradual climbing
> from the RG valley to Juan Tabo would result in left knee twinges the next
> day, especially if cold; 69" and 66" gears not a problem. And standing does
> not seem to cause problems, whence my desire to develop my standing ability.
> And here's the question: does anyone have any medical information, as
> opposed to speculation, about standing and pedalling? Is this any worse for
> your knees than a stair stepper?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:47 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> One thing I don't do/ever really do is run, so luckily my knees aren't too
>> beat up.  The flip side is I don't get the bone-building benefits of
>> running, so I probably have brittle & frail bird-like bones.
>>
>> My Doc said cortisone would be a temp fix.  There are cortisone patches
>> that you can use also.  He explained that it doesn't prevent further injury
>> though, just kinda' masks the pain at the moment.
>>
>> Long/short:  hope you get some relief.  You're also closer to Boulder, so
>> maybe a trip up to Pruitt could be beneficial.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:53 PM, tarik saleh <tariksa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>> please report back! My recent knee glitch culminated in me going to
>>> the doctor finally after years of little troubles. What I assumed was
>>> 4 years of  ignorance of a tear/lack of cartilidge/and or arthritis in
>>> my knee due to lots and lots and lots of running when I was younger
>>> turned out to merely be some bursitus under my IT band. This was post
>>> x-ray and MRI by a really good somewhat local orthopedist. Based on my
>>> symptoms and my brothers diagnosis of no padding left in his knee (he
>>> has the same running history and similar wonky biomechanics as me, 4
>>> years of Div3 intercollegiate XC and indoor/outdoor track, 70 mile
>>> weeks for half the year) I was pretty sure I was going to get the "you
>>> need surgery" or the "no more running" diagnosis.  Instead, I got the
>>> "no restrictions unless it hurts alot, and stretch" diagnosis. Which
>>> was like second Christmas.  I have tried the foam roller, it hurts me
>>> too much to use, I think that is because my IT band is so tight. So I
>>> will just try stretching and easing into it  and see.... It does not
>>> really ever give me trouble riding. Only if my saddle is too low. But
>>> it does give me some post running pain and weak/buckling feeling
>>> sometimes. Anyhow, let me know, I will see. The doc also advised that
>>> he has seen cortisteroid shots clear this up permanently, but I am
>>> going to save that for when I really need it!
>>>
>>> Later
>>>
>>> Tarik
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > These are the resources that have been mentioned off list.  I thought I
>>> > would publicly catalog them in one place in case someone else is having
>>> > similar problems (and was too shy to speak up!) or has other
>>> suggestions.
>>> >
>>> > THANKS!
>>> >
>>> > Local chiropractor/bike fit:  http://www.bodyfix.net/
>>> > Orthotics:  http://www.aline.com/sports/aline-cycle
>>> > Not so local bike fit:
>>> http://bch.org/sportsmedicine/bio-andy-pruitt.aspx
>>> > Other (foam rolling):
>>> >
>>> http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/flexibilityandstretching/ss/FoamRoller_5.htm
>>> >
>>> > Also the basics of stretching, lowering the saddle and widening the Q
>>> were
>>> > reiterated.
>>> >
>>> > Will report back!  :-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> --
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> David
>>> >> Redlands, CA
>>> >>
>>> >> "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
>>> something
>>> >> wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill
>>> Nye,
>>> >> scientist guy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > David
>>> > Redlands, CA
>>> >
>>> > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
>>> something
>>> > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill
>>> Nye,
>>> > scientist guy
>>> >
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>> David
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>>
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