that's exactly what Team Pro is for - it's shaped very different from B17

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 1:06:52 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>
> If the B-17 is the wrong shape for drop-bar riding, what about the Team 
> Pro?  I've had several of those over the years on road bikes and the only 
> thing I didn't like about it was the lack of bag loops (which can be 
> rectified by an add-on device).
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 9:22:59 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> OK, but this was the first 8 miles on my first S-A - it stretched so much 
>> the front of the saddle actually let go of the stretch bolt - this was 
>> stopped at a bike shop to borrow some tools to fix it.  
>> This took most of the stretch bolt and finally bent a rail.  
>>
>>
>> <http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP5190007.jpg>
>> I have 10,000 mi on a B17 Select and took just a little stretch bolt in 
>> the summer when I was sweating heavily.  
>>
>>
>> <http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/International/aaaaaPB180001.jpg>
>> I'm also pushing that distance on my Rivet Indy.  
>> It's one of the first Debra made and developed the problem of a ridge 
>> behind the slot, I think because the radius of that rear hole was too 
>> small.  
>> She solved this problem by increasing the diameter of the rear slot hole 
>> - I think at my recommendation.  
>>
>>
>> <http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aaaaP1010005.jpg>
>>
>> Finally this year, I just took one of my very sharp knives and sliced the 
>> ridge off.  
>>
>>
>> <http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aaaaPC060002.jpg>
>>
>> It's working great.  This is a very cozy high-mileage saddle.  
>>
>>
>> I think for most people, B17 is the wrong shape for a drop-bar road bike 
>> - it certainly is for me.  I think B17 works best on your sit-up touring 
>> bike, and also works fine for me on an upright.  
>>
>> And I agree, for the greatest range in riding positions, S-A is the most 
>> invisible saddle ever made.  But matching a B17 or Rivet to its correct 
>> riding position (for your tush) is equally invisible.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 8:14:35 AM UTC-6, ian m wrote:
>>>
>>> I am honestly surprised people have managed to stretch the SA leather 
>>> past the length of the tension bolt. I have a Titanico (original model 
>>> before T, X, &c.) I've had for about 5 years. Put countless miles on it, 
>>> rode it on a week long tour, commuted on it, you name it. Still going 
>>> strong. I bought a second about 3 years ago (T model) and like the leather 
>>> more than on the original. Haven't moved the tension bolt past halfway for 
>>> either.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing the combination of a less stiff leather than the Brooks and 
>>> the looser hammocking shape of the saddle makes the SA work better with 
>>> specific body shapes. People with uneven hip rotation will stretch each 
>>> side of the saddle differently, people with thicker legs may experience 
>>> thigh rub, &c. I personally never found a Brooks comfortable and after 
>>> riding one for about a year barely noticed any breaking in whereas the SA 
>>> was the most comfortable saddle I ever sat in right out of the box. To each 
>>> their own, best thing you can do is try as many saddles as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:22:48 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I received an email from Selle Anatomica that all their saddles were on 
>>>> sale for $99 during the holidays.  I had thought about the X-series in the 
>>>> past to replace my B17.  The goal was to get a saddle with a cutout. 
>>>>  Others I had been considering were the Brooks C17 Carved and the Rivet 
>>>> Pearl.  I like the Rivet and don't know much about the C17 carved but was 
>>>> wondering if the SA was worth trying while it is $50-60 less.  I've read 
>>>> people raving about the Rivet saddles here but also thought I remember 
>>>> some 
>>>> people complaining about the SA saddles sagging pretty quickly.  Any 
>>>> thoughts comparing these 3 choices?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>

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