Oh, yes, yes...you are right about the rain!! And if we don't get it now through the winter, we're screwed! Our local reservoir was down maybe 10' I'll bet.
Good, we should def make some plans. There aren't a whole lot of us around, you know; weed out the carbons and it would be just about left to me, ha! Oh, I do have pal here who actually builds frames (just for himself, too bad) so that's one more. Wow, 2 of us! I think all of my bikes are right about 24.5 lbs. Who knows how accurate my scale is but either add or unwind some tape and they'd all be the same. I simply can't tell the difference, certainly not riding, that's why I got brave and tried the scale. I was afraid of more, and I didn't want to know! We're a screwy bunch, that's for sure. Good luck with the L'Avecaise. Great looking bike, surely a great ride, and from all accounts a good guy building them. Properly priced, too, IMHO. Merry Christmas, Bill, and keep in touch. JD On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 4:43:54 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA wrote: > > Thank you for sharing the photos, Jock. Great to see them all. You have > quite the stable. I didn't know you have a Ram, also. > > Is the Soma a Stanyan? I know a few guys who've built up Smoothies. The > Stanyan is slightly lighter tubing? A bit surprised that the Ebisu is > heavier. > > I will definitely plan a ride with you after the holidays. Athens has > better country riding for sure. I haven't been riding regularly due to some > knee issues. Getting rounds of synthetic cartilage injections the next few > weeks. The Dr. told me to take it easy, don't cause any swelling while > tissues are absorbing the knee goo. > > Can't complain about the rainy weather since a few weeks ago half of the > places I hike were closed due to forest fires! > > Cheers, > Bill in Roswell, GA > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 10:49:07 AM UTC-5, Jock Dewey wrote: >> >> Hey, Bill: >> >> Definitely YES, do the L'Avecaise! Then c'mon over to Athens so I can >> have a go at it. >> >> My quandry is, I haven't had skinny tubes since those days my Eisentraut >> (now hanging up) was on the road. What if L'Avecaise was so magical my >> Ebisu or Ram no longer came out of the house? Oh, that would be sad because >> I'm so fond of both (and after 13 years just had JB respray Ram). >> >> Of course, much of this mystifies me. I built Soma--nice stainless >> headlugs--a couple years ago with a bunch of nice bits I'd been collecting. >> (I got pro-deal on frame so it was really inexpensive.) Despite frame specs >> at which many would scoff, I grab this bike all the time as I love the way >> it 'feels'. I guess I still don't know what that quite means totally, even >> after more than 60 years aboard. To wit, I ride Ebisu all day, then hop on >> the yellow bike and despite its on-paper shortcomings, it's full of life. >> Sprightly, comfortable and fast, too. When I'm challenged by my kid to keep >> his wheel, I often grab Soma. >> >> Last spring I had some time on a rainy day, my wife was in CA with >> family, so I took off bags, pumps, water bottles--but left on fenders, >> pedals, etc--and crudely weighed them all on a hanging scale. I must admit, >> I wasn't sure I really wanted to know. Surprise, surprise, pleasant >> surprise...they all weighed about 24 1/2 lbs. As comparison (and to make >> sure scale was sort-of working), Waterford AC1900 came in at 28 lbs. and >> kid's Columbus Bianchi racing bike with featherweight Chronometro Aerohead >> wheels weighed in at just ever so slightly over 23 lbs. Wow. >> >> (Oh, another data point, all my bikes share same wheel spec, i.e. Open >> Pro / 32 / XTR hubs / 15g spokes / light, responsive 30mm tires. All other >> very-nice components quite similar). >> >> So now I wonder/ponder, thinking back to other bikes and experiences, >> tandems included, I recall being stunned when I first rode my now-long-gone >> Litespeed. THAT was breathtaking...so so so light. Oh my gosh. I was >> instantly 20 years younger. >> >> Therefore, what is the mystical IT? Is there a mystical IT? I'm thinking >> weight, other spex relatively equal, really does have something quite >> crucial to say about *it. * >> >> I guess what I'm realizing is (and answering my own question), at this >> point, I should probably just quit while I'm ahead. Enticing as today's >> choices are and they ARE enticing, perhaps more so than they've ever been, >> maybe I should continue to ride and care for the joys I gots rather than >> entertain dreams of the ones I ain't gots. >> >> But, Bill, if you DO pull the trigger and go L'Avecaise, still c'mon over >> so I can admire. And you would let me ride it around the block, right? >> >> Oh and BTW, someone once told me 'the best day is when you buy a boat and >> the next best day is when you sell it.' >> >> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA >> >> >> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:56:32 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA >> wrote: >>> >>> The little devil on my shoulder awoke when I saw that Jeff Lyon wants to >>> move some L'Avecaise frames out with fork and headset (customer gets to >>> pick the single, solid paint color). I'd been thinking Riv for years, but >>> never justified pulling the trigger (I'm pretty happy with my stable, but >>> I'm missing something to do bikepacking with - was thinking Wolverine, but >>> then - you know - that NYT article came out; plus I just got rid of the >>> monthly boat anchor at the local marina). >>> >>> So, given the choice for the same price and knowing I can't go wrong >>> either way, would you pick a Riv or L'Avecaise? >>> >>> I'm just interested in hearing some different points of view because my >>> feeble brain isn't capable of thinking of every angle of consideration! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bill in Roswell, GA >>> >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. 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