Clearly, the answer is not 42, it's "n + 1".


On 01/21/2017 01:34 PM, Jeff Lesperance wrote:
Patrick, I think there's a clear answer that has been right in front of us the entire time.... time for a new bike with mounts n's bosses n' stuff where you want 'em and need 'em!

I'm here to help, and enable.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com <mailto:bertin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Takashi: that's very kind of you, but the problem with mounting
    near the dropout is that the caliper blocks rearward access to the
    fender strut. I've used the PB tubular braces that put the
    attachment point some 2.5" outward from the dropout, and even then
    had to bend the stay to clear the caliper adjusting knob.

     I do appreciate the offer.

    On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Takashi <lachrymae...@gmail.com
    <mailto:lachrymae...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Viva in Japan makes QR-mounted eyelet, similar to Velo Orange
        but smaller.
        Front :
        http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/03/00/item32601500003.html
        <http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/03/00/item32601500003.html>
        Rear :
        http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/07/00/item30901500007.html
        <http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/07/00/item30901500007.html>

        I have pairs for both front and rear that I don't use, so I
        can send them to you if you want.

        Takashi


        Jeff wrote:

            Does something like this help at all for keeping the stay
            QR mounted at the dropout:
            Inline image 1
            Spotted here:
            
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-fender-stay-mount-for-eyeletless-frames-4mm-qr.html
            
<http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-fender-stay-mount-for-eyeletless-frames-4mm-qr.html>




            On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Bill in Roswell GA
            <roadsc...@gmail.com> wrote:

                Patrick, just curious as to why not the Tubus mid-fork
                mounts?

                They do look a bit clunky, but work far better than
                P-clamps according to whole sum of people I know using
                them, which is 1. Still, being Tubus, you know it's
                engineered to a T.

                At about $25, the Tubus mounts are a lot less than
                having braze-ons added ($100 for 2? Raw, no paint).
                Think of bolt-on mounts as a temporary solution until
                you can get mounts brazed-on. Paint it later or have
                it blasted raw with a clear coat. There are always
                options with a long time line!

                Cheers,
                Bill in Roswell, GA

                On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:10:13 PM UTC-5,
                Patrick Moore wrote:

                    Never mind. The placement of the disc caliper
                    behind the left fork leg makes these problematical.

                    Another question: I thought that someone brought
                    up on the list not too long ago a clamp-on fender
                    strut mount, better than a P clamp, and not
                    Tubus's clamp for lowriders. I looked through
                    Problems Solvers but could find nothing of the sort.

                    Is there such a thing? I realize now to my chagrin
                    that, when Chauncey brought the Matthews
                    frame/fork by a year ago for inspection before
                    final prep and powdercoat, I did not catch the
                    fender braze ons at dropout instead of
                    mid-fork-leg. I'd like to find some clamp-on
                    alternatives.

                    Thanks.

                    On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Patrick Moore
                    <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:

                        Before I spend, does anyone have an unused
                        pair to donate? Will of course pay postage.

                        Money tight at the moment.

                        Thanks.

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