I think there is a point to this, but it can be a gray area. Technically, 
Rivendell is mainly an online seller, meaning they are theoretically taking 
sales away from my local shop. However, this mostly remains in the 
theoretical realm, for mostly obvious reasons. On the other hand, Amazon is 
currently destroying more businesses than Walmart or Home Depot ever did. I 
don't shop there as a rule. 

Then there are the more direct competitors, such as VO, or big online bike 
shops like Modernbike, Niagara Cycles, Wiggle, etc, as well as purveyors of 
wool products like Ibex. When it comes down to it, though, there is not a 
huge amount of crossover product. Riv specs but does not sell the pedals 
linked in this post. And as Patrick points out, this is not an official Riv 
site, and does not require owning a Rivendell bicycle to participate.

Still, I would guess most of us are big supporters of the company. I almost 
always adhere to the request Grant once made about several products that 
can be found elsewhere for perhaps cheaper prices--hey, if you heard about 
it from us, buy it from us as a courtesy. Even with stuff I have been 
buying for years from other sources--the black wool merino sportskins, for 
example--if Riv has my size in stock when I need something, I buy it from 
them. There are rare exceptions--I used to always buy my Boeshield when 
placing orders, but now they only sell the small can, so I started getting 
it elsewhere. And the  rear rim on a brand new Atlas wheelset just took an 
unrepairable hit, but Riv does not sell these rims separately. The 
manufacturer offers it for $87.99 plus $14.00 shipping, or I can get it 
from Bikemania for $59.99, same shipping charge. (Of course BM has every 
single configuration in stock except the 36h silver finish that I need...)

In the bigger picture, this constant drive toward the *apparent* cheapest 
price, the reliance on subsidized shipping (yes, even at the increasing 
shipping, it's all subsidized) and cheap labor, the destruction of local 
anything, is all coming to a not very pretty end. It has only lasted this 
long because those  who derive great benefit from it have done everything 
possible to keep the globalization scheme running as long as possible.

Meanwhile, I'm heading over to Rivbike.com to buy some pannier rails for my 
Clem rack, and a few other assorted Goods & Sundries.



On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 8:06:50 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:
>
> I appreciate a good heads up as much as the next guy, but i do think we 
> need to reign in the discussions about shopping elsewhere besides Rivendell 
> - at least on this forum.  As Grant put it recently (in multiple ways and 
> places, actually), a business like theirs lives and dies with sales.

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