John:

No, I haven't tried the Green Guards.  I have used the Plus Tour.  It's 
even heavier & tougher.  One flat in 6,000 miles on the rear & it was a big 
screw.  I did notice a big improvement in ride & performance when I went 
back to Supremes.  I think the Plus Tour is about 2X the weight of the 
Supreme.

One of my touring buds uses what is probably the Green Guard.  He refers to 
them as "regular old Schwalbes, $35 each".  He gets few flats & they last a 
long time.  He does over 12,000 miles per year.

IME, once the bike is loaded up, I don't notice as much difference in 
tires.  But without a load, I can definitely notice differences in ride 
quality & performance such as getting up to speed from a stop.  

dougP

On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 8:37:59 PM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote:
>
> Doug, I'm curious if you've ever tried your Atlantis with Marathon Green 
> Guards. Wondering how they compare to the Supremes. On paper, the Supremes 
> rein supreme, but in real world conditions I'd be curious. Of course they 
> are heavy, but to paraphrase Grant: "With weight comes good things." I know 
> over at the blog "Cycling About", the author did a tire rolling comparison 
> (drum rollers, not real world) and puncture comparison, and the Marathon 
> Green Guard came out very well indeed - especially considering the price 
> per mile. For a true commuting/touring tire, it looks to be extremely long 
> lasting.
>
> J.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 8:12:19 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>
>> Isaac:
>>
>> Congratulations on having excellent taste in bikes.  Be sure to post 
>> photos when you've rec'd the bike.  
>>
>> One of the many beauties of the Atlantis is the ability to fit all sorts 
>> of big chubby tires.  While 29+ may be pushing it, for your intended 
>> purpose you have tons of good choices.  
>>
>> My personal bias is to Schwalbe because I hate flats.  I've been pleased 
>> with the 40 mm Marathon Supremes on my 58 cm Atlantis, having used them for 
>> many years.  When I was doing more touring (5-6k miles per year) I would 
>> only get a flat or 2 per year.  Rear tires lasted a year & fronts a bit 
>> longer.  I'm doing about 3,000 miles year now so rarely deal with a flat.  
>> I also don't insist on getting the last mile out of a tire.  
>>
>> I've also tried the Marathon Mondials.  They give better traction off 
>> pavement, at a penalty in ride & weight.  
>>
>> Others have used a wide variety of tires for similar uses so you'll no 
>> doubt get plenty of responses with personal use information.  Compass, 
>> Soma, et al have all been used with good result.  The trade-off, as always, 
>> is puncture resistance and ride vs life span and flat resistance.  You may 
>> end up with your own tire inventory.  It's a harmless indulgence.  Enjoy.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 7:31:38 PM UTC-7, Birdman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, 
>>>
>>> I am beyond thrilled to say that I just put a deposit down on a 64 
>>> Atlantis with a double tt! Now I get to enjoy many months of anticipation 
>>> while fantasizing about bike builds... 
>>>
>>> Speaking of which, I always rode 32mm pasellas on my Quickbeam as well 
>>> as on my current touring bike, because of its relatively narrow crown and 
>>> chain stays. The option of running larger tires on the Atlantis is part of 
>>> its appeal for me, but I don't really know where to begin. 
>>>
>>> Any tire size/brand recommendations for commuting and touring with some 
>>> gravel and dirt roads? I know it all comes down to compromises and personal 
>>> preferences, but where should I start? 
>>>
>>> Thanks. I haven't posted here in many years. It's great to be coming 
>>> back to the RBW Owners Bunch. 
>>>
>>> Isaac
>>
>>

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