I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about saddle height 
being 10-11cm lower than PBH to be true for them. My PBH is 86cm and for 
the longest time, ran my saddle at 75cm from the center of the cranks. 
Lately, I switched from clipless pedals to flats, and now that the weather 
is warm, I have been riding in Bedrock Sandals. Because the soles are so 
thin, I had to lower my saddle a bit. I've also been dealing with some knee 
pain and came across these articles: 
https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/2011/02/seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be/
 and 
https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/05/addendum-to-seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be-2/.
 
I think a lot of what he says is going on for me: knee and back pain, 
tilted hips, pedaling toes-down, etc. I went for a ride this morning and 
stopped to lower my saddle a few times. No new knee pain (same as before), 
and now I feel like I can pedal with a more level foot. My legs are still 
pretty far extended at the bottom of the stroke, and I can't reach them at 
the bottom with my heels (another possibly flawed guide for setting saddle 
height). When I got home I measured the saddle height at 73cm. I know the 
Bedrock sandals are thin, but I doubt they're 2cm thinner than my clipless 
pedals and shoe combo. Maybe the additional sole flex makes them 
effectively even thinner? 

Chris

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