On 08/10/2017 06:51 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Steve correctly pointed out a qualifier

"Of course, there could also be an issue with the stoutness of tubing
required for a loaded touring bike vs an unloaded roadie, so tell us
about the frame tubing of the touring bike as well.  And by all means,
describe. "

My comment was deliberate. That's precisely why I limited my offered comments to 'geometry and fit'. I intended to withhold comment about the more qualitative aspects that are informed as much by the rider and the rider's preferences. You are absolutely right that a perfectly fitting bike made from gossamer mithril is a different machine than a bike with the identical geometry made of thickwall OS.




But tubing stiffness is qualitative! How it affects you, on the other hand, is not.

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