I also bought those fenders for my new (at the time) Sam and had those 
tires.  My mechanic who is very good by the way, could not get them to 
fit.  I had to end up putting them on a Cheviot that I own with no 
problems.  My Sam remains without fenders which actually I am ok with.

On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 1:44:33 AM UTC-4, RJ March wrote:
>
> I am looking to get fenders for my Sam. I am running 650bx42 Gran Bois 
> tires. 
>
> I am partial to the hammered Honjo's 650bx58 but have a hard time 
> imagining they will fit the modern Sam (with the long-reach caliper brakes 
> instead of the trusty ol' canti's). Has anyone managed to fit the Honjo 
> 650bx58? 
>
> Alternatively, I think the VO Zeppelin 52mm Fenders 650b will work. Has 
> anyone tried it successfully on the modern Sam? 
>
> Thanks for your help on this!
> R.J. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 9, 2013 at 1:48:10 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> Two concerns: Tire height and tire width.
>>  
>> *Tire Width:*
>> RBW says that the P45 Longboard fits tires up to 45m wide.
>>  
>> *Tire Height:*
>> You have to think about the *height* of the tire and being able to have 
>> enough clearance to sandwich the fender and brake arms between the top of 
>> the tire and bottom of the fork crown, and will there be enough clearance 
>> for the brake arms to move without them smushing down on the fender.
>>  
>> Now, running a 35 tire should be able to get you more space vertically 
>> between the top of the tire and the bottom of fork crown, if a 40 doesn't 
>> work. So you could mount the fender further away from the brake arms if 
>> more space is needed so they do not contact the fender. That is the only 
>> benefit I can think of to having a narrower tire. Other than a narrower 
>> tire looks cool.
>>  
>> For instance, both my 52 Sam and 55 Bleriot have their P45 Longboard 
>> fenders mounted as high as they will go under the fork crowns in order to 
>> accommodate my 650b x 42mm Marathons (Sam) and 650bx42mm Hetre tires (on 
>> Bleriot) with my Tektro R559 brake calipers on both bikes.
>>  
>> I have about 1.5 mm of space between the bottom of Tektro brake arm and 
>> the fender on the Sam with marathon. The space grows as the brakes are 
>> applied. It is tight, but works great. Brakes do not touch fenders, and 
>> their is plenty of clearance for the tires.
>> About 3mm of clearance between the Bleriot Tektro R559 brakes and the 
>> fender with Hetres. Plenty-o-space.
>>  
>> (BTW, the Marathons are called 42mm and the Hetres are called 42mm width 
>> tires by their manufacturers, but both measure 40.5mm width on synergy rims 
>> at 55 psi).
>>  
>>
>

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