I think the second top-tube makes more sense when you think about it
in the context of the 'expanded' geometry.    Because the top-tube
rises the way it does, the headtube for a given size is 5-6cm taller
than it would be otherwise.    So for a 62cm frame, you're looking at
an equivalent headtube length to that of a 67-68cm horizontal-tt
frame.

Also many properly assembled single-tt frames, ridden in the manner in
which they were intended, have met their demise-  by accident.      I
mean, how many bent forks and buckled down/top tubes have you seen?
They are usually the result of crashes, which happen all the time when
a bike is being ridden in the manner in which it is intended (i.e.
rider is human).  There's tons of graveyard bikes out there with just
those symptoms.

I like the two top-tubes, but then again i'm partial because i love my
bombadil.   And as far as overlapping functionality with the the
Atlantis and Bombadil, the differences are outlined in the flyer.
Plus there's a difference in price.   Personally, I think it's great
that Rivendell is adding to their touring/offroad line-up.    Last
year they added the Roadeo, which as far as I know has the lightweight
category pretty well sewn-up.



On Feb 9, 2:40 pm, Ron MH <[email protected]> wrote:
> I guess I'm confused. Why cover the same ( or so nearly the same that
> the differences become meaningless) territory with three different
> models (Atlantis, Bombadil, Hunqapillar)?
>
> Also, why a second top tube at all? I understand that a second tube
> would make a very (Very) large frame more stable. But, beyond that,
> what's the utility in a second top tube? Has anyone here ever heard of
> a rash of properly assembled bicycle frames, ridden in conditions they
> are meant for (i.e. stouter tubing for touring or mountain bikes makes
> sense) break because a second to tube wasn't employed?
>
> I'm open to enlightenment - nirvana even. ;-)
>
> Ron
>
> On Feb 8, 9:04 pm, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the
> > outer edges of "all rounder" territory: heavy duty touring,
> > singletrack, and robust commuting.  A winner, for sure.
>
> > Esteban
> > San Diego, Calif
>
> > On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with  40mm
> > > Schwalbes a killer touring rig!  Even in Elephant color!
>
> > > another home run for RBW.
>
> > > Mikey
> > > SoCal

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