The Silver2 shifters--many of you know this--are anatomically nearly identical to the SunTours from '82. We tried to improve where we could, but there wasn't much opportunity. The clamp is more versatile, fits more diameters. The rotation method no longer used the holes, but goes with florets on the perimeter. Sorry about the language here, don't feel like you should understand that, but basically it uses the same rotation system as SunRace thumbies. The one we designed (the clamp) was, I think, better still, but the front-runner is still good. We had free run of the lever and submitted the clamp, but Dia-Compe has its own ideas for the clamp, and it's still plenty good, and improvement over the early SunTours.
I expect to see them in mid to late March. We've already mounted the lever (just a left) and tested its ergo and all, and it's fine. The thing is, when it comes out, we expect a certain amount of monday morning QB-ing, and that'll be fine, part of the fun, but the lever is really quite good as it is, and without the emotional backing of our customers in general and this group especially, things like this don't happen. Modern shifters-STI, trigger shifters, all that--really have been perfected. They work perfectly, and from that point of view there's no reason NOT to use them. It's just hard to argue why not... For me it comes down to a mix of a philosophical approach that .. is hard to put into words without sounding like the unabomber, but it has to do with saying no to ultimate convenience in the interest of integrating your brain and finger mechanics into the working of a simple compound machine composed of a wheel (the cable drum of the shifter) and a lever, the shifter itself. It also has to do with resisting the urge for maximizing overkill in recreational activities, and not accepting that it's stubbornness or stupidity to do that (to resist). We all know where the tide is going with everything, and I'd vote for more than half of it, I'm sure, but there has to be a line. This reminds me right now, of when I hired on at Bstone in December '84 and thought the tag-line for the bikes was sappy or hokey or stupid. It was "The Body and the Bike —the Synergistic Combination." Looking at bikes and bodies now, I think that's not so stupid anymore. Manual shifting--and maybe even traditional indexing is part of that, in view of what's right around the corner of the pike--is like digging in your heels at the 50-yard line and not letting your role in riding the bike diminish as much as the component makers and the desperate bike industry wants it to be diminished. They can and are selling diminishment as advancement, but that's funky because it assumes there's no pleasure in "the synergistic combination." It's FUN to shift, it's FUN to miss a shift now and then, to be a flubby human, and then to correct it on the retry. Every time your shift misses or isn't perfect, it's a reminder that you're a fallible human operating a simple machine, and of course you want your shifts to take all the time, but nobody dies if they don't. The Silver2 shifters will be pretty good. Good enough! I just thought of something to wonder about. Hm. OK! On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Ed Fausto <emfau...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Garth, I appreciate the help. > Now I need to find a pair to try on my Cheviot :-) > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 7:38 PM, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Any of them Ed ! >> Friction does not limit or is limited by the number of cogs, given the >> intended cable pull ratio. I have used mine from 5-9 speeds, easy breezy. >> They have a huge range. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RAmeS3Y1FaE/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
