It is likely that a large part of what makes the Taiwan-made frames so much 
cheaper is that they are made---and shipped---in batches of several 
identical model, size, color frames. Ordering bikes one-at-a-time like the 
nominally `production' Waterford frames, then shipping them across the 
Pacific individually would not result in Hilsens for the price of 
Hillbornes, methinks. 
  
Mark Anderson in Chicago

On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 1:24:32 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The terrible secret about the Taiwan versions is they're just as 
> meticulously brazed by bike geeks as the MUSA frames. Everybody likes 
> supporting domestic production and some of us have the cash to support it, 
> but realistically you're not getting a "better" Riv. They're all great.  

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