I meant Rock n' Road tires. lol. 

I had Fatty Rumpkins on the bike before the Rock n' Roads and they handled 
crushed limestone trails great too. 

I found V-brakes powerful enough to not give me any issue braking on 
trails, but in my experience hydraulic discs are on a whole 'nuther level 
of awesome. If you are looking for a MUSA bike with discs, 650b wheels, and 
room for fat tires you could check out CHUMBA bikes. They have one called 
the Terlingua that checks all those boxes, but it is a welded steel frame 
and not lugged. 

On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:25:18 AM UTC-6, RJM wrote:

> Back when I had my orange canti Sam H I initially set it up as a road bike 
> with Noodles, bar end shifters, and v-brakes and the bike really rode well. 
> It was a 650 b wheeled bike with Velocity Dyads and the Rivy freewheel 
> hubs. Pretty nice setup. I then changed it to do some trail riding by 
> switching over to some albatross bars with paul thumbies. the bike handled 
> gravel and the more mellower trails around me very well, but when it came 
> to single track with larger roots and not smooth trails, the low bottom 
> bracket height introduced some pedal strikes. When I had it in that 
> configuration I was using Rock n' Roll tires, which are great. 
>
> the Sam isn't a mountain bike, but it makes for a really good trail bike 
> provided your trails are pretty clear of root and rock drops. 
>
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 4:45:50 PM UTC-6, Neil Doran wrote:
>
>> I've always loved riding my Sam in the dirt, and regularly 'underbike' my 
>> Sam and my Surly commuter through all manner of trail. Love it.
>>
>> But a big mixed-terrain ride a few weeks back got me thinking about a 
>> more dirt-capable build. Roman's bike also serves as fodder for the idea:
>>
>>
>>
>> Really, the lynch pin is high-volume knobbies, and I think the Cazaderos 
>> are the ones to try. Roman thinks they will fit under 559s. I'm thinking 
>> knobbie tires, a short-reach drop bar rather than Noodles, and maybe even 
>> brifters. I'm not manly enough to go 1x, but a hi-lo double might be sweet.
>>
>> The alternative is a new bike (disk brakes, 650B with room for fatties), 
>> which I really shouldn't do.
>>
>> Let me know what you have done to off-road your Sam!
>>
>

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