Still no photos, but all I have left to do is wrap the bars.  I will maybe 
start a new thread when the bars are wrapped.  I wanted to update this 
thread on the weight topic.  I cut the steertube down by 78g, and that 
leaves 10cm above my threadless stem at the max height I would want.  I may 
cut it again after some shake down rides.

The total weight came in at 24.3lbs. That doesn't mean a lot without a 
build list, which I'll post soon. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 10:31:33 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I finally bought a BMC Monstercross frameset.  Why?  Because it's dumb not 
> to buy one.  The only thing that had been stopping me was the horizontal 
> dropouts, because vertical dropouts are categorically better.  Since the 
> last time I decided horizontal dropouts were a dealkiller, I've acquired 4 
> bikes with horizontal dropouts, and guess what?  I didn't die.  Vertical 
> dropouts are better, but horizontals are not the end of the world.  The 
> BRIGHT green colorway of the latest batch made it irresistable.  So, new 
> bike day?  The build will be a drop bar mountain bike.  No racks, no 
> lights, no fenders.  It'll be used for 2-3 hour mountain bike rides. I'll 
> post photos when there is something to look at.  I have a couple small 
> details to iron out.  
>
> In the meantime, there have been a couple gram-counter threads recently, 
> and I thought I'd offer up another datapoint while I have a bare frame and 
> fork:
>
> A 58cm Black Mountain Monstercross frame, with Cane Creek 40 headset cups 
> pressed in, weighs 2257g
> The fork with a crown race installed and an uncut threadless steerer is 
> 1057g
>
> Use that data for whatever you like.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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