I think Rohloff's claim is that getting the seals right would produce an
unacceptable amount of drag. Whether that's true or not, I'd just settle for
a hub that only seeped but did not bleed oil. They are now replacing all of
the internals of my hub, so let's hope I have better luck this time.


> From: JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com>
> Reply-To: <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:51:54 -0800 (PST)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: IGH
> 
>> The best thing about my Rohloff is that it never leaks, never requires any
>> maintenance, right?
>> 
>> To think of all the time I could be spending fussing with derailleurs if I
>> didn't have to keep sending my Rohloff back for repair.
> 
> My experience as well.  It almost seems as though the brilliant
> engineers are all clamoring to work on the gearing and no one is
> interested in the journeyman stuff like getting seals right.
> 
> And to Jim's point, the more I used the Rohloff, the less I found any
> real advantage over a der system.
> 
> However, I do wonder whether the forthcoming Alfine 11 will have the
> easier Rohloff mount/dismount connection.
> 
> On Feb 18, 12:10 pm, Dustin Sharp <dsh...@runbox.com> wrote:
>> The best thing about my Rohloff is that it never leaks, never requires any
>> maintenance, right?
>> 
>> To think of all the time I could be spending fussing with derailleurs if I
>> didn't have to keep sending my Rohloff back for repair.
>> 
>> Dustin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Esteban <proto...@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:07:27 -0800 (PST)
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: IGH
>> 
>>> I agree with Grant.  I think that if you're going for simplicity, 1x9
>>> is the way to go.  My Kogswell had that before I changed it out for a
>>> Nexus redline by default (my wife wanted touring gearing after all on
>>> her bike).  I preferred the 1x9 - the steps were more even, lighter,
>>> etc.  I like the IGH only because its different from my other bikes,
>>> and fully loaded (70lbs groceries + child), its nice to not think
>>> ahead about shifting down as I approach a stop.
>> 
>>> This being said, I liked this quote:
>>> "If I were riding my bike to the Birmingham coal mines every day and I
>>> got home too bushed to brush my teeth, I'd go for an internal gear and
>>> hope the gear-chain dealybob didn't slip and leave me spinning air"
>> 
>>> I've had a long love affair with the Birtish 3-speed.  They're like
>>> sliding around on a heavy, elegant steel sled.
>> 
>>> Esteban
>>> San Diego, Calif.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Agree with Seth mostly, but my Alfine instructions were to place gear in
>>>> 4th
>>>> at the red line on the shift indicated. All else as he said.  I've never
>>>> had
>>>> any trouble with the hub.
>> 
>>>> Sent From My iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com>
>>>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Jim:
>> 
>>>> What is the process for changing an Alfine equipped wheel?
>> 
>>>> When I had the Rohloff equipped bike changing the wheels was the least
>>>> of my problems.  The cables attached to the hub throug some sort of
>>>> easy off device.  With OEM Rohloff drop outs anyway, removing the
>>>> wheel from that point on was not any more difficult than removing a
>>>> traditional hub and cassette wheel.
>> 
>>>> On the other hand, what should have been simple issues given the
>>>> engineering of the hub - ie seals that worked and finding Rohloff
>>>> approved oil - turned into such a hassle I wound up getting rid of the
>>>> blasted bike.  And it was a real beauty.
>> 
>>>> on the nexus redline hubs I have used the process was:
>> 
>>>> - set the grip shift into 1st
>>>> - pull the little bolt fixer-do-flochy to disconnect it from the rear
>>>> hub bracket
>>>> - take the wheel out
>>>> - change tire
>>>> - put wheel back in
>>>> - put chain back on cog
>>>> - reconnect the bolt fixer do-flochy
>>>> - shift things to make sure the magic lines are aligned on the hub
>>>> - bolt stuff tight after tensioning the chain
>>>> - ride off.
>> 
>>>> maybe there's a step I'm missing b/c it never took me much time to do it.
>> 
>>>> -sv
>> 
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