My recollection is that my tour load for my Sam for the front Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus Tara was in the 35 lbs range and that the Sam wanted at least some type of weight on the back to accompany that front load if I wanted it to behave reasonably, which I had, so no problem. My loose rule for loading a Sam or a Homer:
Weight in back only > weight in back and front, biased at least 60/40 back/front > minimal weight in front only. Sam handled a full tour load just fine - yeah, feels weird at first but once you get a handful of miles under your belt, you get used to it and weird/slow handling becomes normal. Homer didn't feel as bad with front-only loading but still pretty much wanted the same loading schedule that Sam wanted, just with a lower overall total weight. High/forward/baskets, IMHO, doesn't work super-awesome on Sam or Homer with drop bars, but worked alright with a Rosco v.2 with Choco bars (flat, swept-back bars), though the latter is hardly a "roady" bike. On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I often install the front (Ortlieb Sports Packers) on the '03 Road for a > grocery run to Corrales, and end up buying enough to fill most of the rear > Roller Packers. I manage to stuff it all in, somehow, but I've carried as > much as 35 lb between the 2 fronts, and the bike doesn't like it -- it > doesn't want to turn. It's happier with sub-20 lb between the 2 fronts. > > Even on the rear, this bike doesn't handle 30+ lb loads with the grace > that the 2 best rear-load-carrying bikes I've owned did (they were very > different; light, flexy '73 Motobecane Grand Record, and Fuji Royale "12 > Speed", a much beefier frame and a bike that really was rather skittish, at > least with 28s (I seem to recall that it stabilized a bit with 42s), but > that, with at least 15 lb in rear panniers, felt wonderfully planted. (I > recall carrying ~10 lb in one of those old Carradice boxy bags on the Nitto > bar-mount "prongs" that held the weight high and forward; rode it in gusty > sidewinds -- sold the Boxy Bag and "prongs." > > Long windup, but we get there eventually: how much can you comfortably > carry in lowriders on one of the more "roady" Rivendells? Roads, LongLows, > Rams, Sams, Bleriots, Redwoods or whatever they were? > > What about in baskets -- high, forward! -- on other models? > > In any event, even a ride on the Rivendell with too much weight in front > is a heckofalot more pleasant than driving the car! > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > ************************************************************************** > ************** > *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
