>
> Well crimey .... if they go back that far and they recommend a 2 cm longer 
> stem than an Alba, which already required a longer stem .... heck .... that 
> put's me back in the 80's mtb dayze ..... "hey ... you got any 150mm stems 
> cuz my frame doesn't have enough reach ?"    Ahahahaha !   
>

Alright ... then we need frames with more reach !    

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