I found my Legolas data from when I was posting about that build.  The 
Legolas frame + fork + headset was 6.30 pounds.  Apples to apples, the 57cm 
Leo Roadini is 1.45 pounds heavier than a 57cm Legolas.  That's almost the 
weight of one full water bottle.  That's pretty consistent with my 
expectations.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 5:12:40 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> We have a good digital scale in the lab at my office.  Frame+fork+headset 
> weighed in at a stoutish  7.75 pounds. I'll separate frame and fork and get 
> those rough weights separately before I start the build, and I'll compare 
> that to my data for my 57 Legolas.  My recent 58cm Black Mountain 
> Monstercross weighed 7.13 pounds for frame + fork + headset.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 1:26:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I used to own two Black Mountain Road bikes.  Both 59cm, both orange.  
>> One lives at my mom's house and is set up as an all purpose road bike.  The 
>> other, at my house, used to be set up as a racier, lighter stripped down 
>> road bike.  I ran across an iBob lister who wanted a Black Mountain road 
>> frame for a little less than retail, and we struck a deal.  I took those 
>> dollars and my Hail Mary dollars and my Rivendollars to get a Leo Roadini 
>> frameset, and I picked that up today.  The build will be exactly what I had 
>> on my Black Mountain, except it'll have a quill stem and a 26.8mm 
>> seatpost.  The result will be a still-sporty road bike, but one that's a 
>> little more upright and civilized.  I think of it as having a vibe similar 
>> to what we used to call a "sport touring" bike in the 1980s.  My still-new 
>> Legolas will be my aggro-race-bike.  I expect to get right into the build 
>> tonight, since I have everything.  Fun detail: the quill stem will be a 
>> Nitto-Ritchey-Force from a 1993 XO-1.  I haven't planned out the fit in a 
>> super detailed way, but I might end up with the stem totally slammed.  This 
>> 57 has a tall headtube.  This frame will allow me to get the bars WAY up, 
>> if and when I need to do that.  For now, I expect that they'll be up even 
>> when they're down.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> P.S.  To their credit, multiple Riv employees asked "What are you buying 
>> this for?  You've got a road bike!"  When I explained the "trade", then 
>> they were like "Oh, OK, that makes sense then"
>>
>

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