Brent,

Thanks for doing that!  I think the Sam numbers in the new chart were 
changed after the initial posting, as the 58cm Sam had a listed ETT of 61.5 
(I think).  That has been changed to 60, still a bit longer than the 59cm 
listed previously but I have no reason to believe it wrong.

And, yes, you are a lucky guy!  I have two Riv's, an Appaloosa and a 
Cheviot, but still with Hillborne and/or Atlantis aspirations.

Thanks again for the report and the measuring.

Bob
 

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 6:50:40 PM UTC-5, Brent P wrote:
>
> I have a Sam, Joe and Atlantis in the stable (lucky guy!) so I pulled out 
> my spreadsheet. Here's what I found looking at my old vs listed new:
>
> 62 Appaloosa (2017) - no changes to new version
> 62 Sam (2017, non-canti) - new version has 1 cm more top tube, 3 cm more 
> on chainstay. Only changes., 
> 64 Atlantis (2017 MUSA) - this is tougher as there's not a MIT 64. So 
> comparing my 64 to available 62, the new version has 3 cm *more* top 
> tube, 72 to a 71.5 on seat and head, and 6.5 cm more length on chainstay. 
> Fork offset went from 4.5cm to 5.4cm. Standover is 1cm more on MIT 62.
>
> So as I look at it, my Appaloosa is almost identical to a new MIT 
> Atlantis. I enjoy the difference in length between my MUSA Atlantis and 
> Appaloosa, and each is comfortable for different rides and reasons. So I'm 
> glad to have the old 'short' Atlantis around yet. Variety is good!
>
> I do wish my Sam had the longer chainstays of the new, but it's minor 
> quibble. I keep Sam setup as my dropbar, road tire bike anyways.
>
> Aren't we lucky to have so many options!
>
>

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