Darin - thanks for the link - I hadn't seen that particular write-up but I
had looked at Nitto dirt drops in the past and my impression was they they
were all too narrow at the ramps or where the brake levers would be. Looks
like I might have been wrong as the widest RM-013 looks like it could be
close to 46 at the brake levers - I just found a picture here with a
measuring tape:

https://store.biketouringnews.com/nitto-dirt-drop-handlebar-rm-013/

Regarding the shorter ramps on the bars that I'm trying - I knew it would
be a trade-off, and I wanted to see if it would work - had I factored in
the Nitto I might have come to a solution sooner. Thus far, I've tried the
bar with the shortest ramp of the 3 I picked out, the Cowchipper, and it
was close to working, but not quite. I expect the Ritchey may have just
enough, though not a lot of real estate to move around on, and the Origin8
bar is the longest of the three but also the widest flare that I'm unsure
about. I really loved the feel of the drops on the Cowchipper.

I've tried a lot of different things on my bikes over the years, but I've
been pretty locked into Noodles - I've actually enjoyed the research and
the shuffling of the cockpit recently, and I'll be happy to practice catch
n' release of the bars that don't work for me so someone else can maybe try
something different.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 7:20 PM DarinM <darinmal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> You say that your favorite feature of the Noodles is the reach (mine,
> too), but none of those bars have anything resembling the Noodle's. I tried
> Salsa Cowbells sometime last year but gave up on them because they had
> nothing to hold onto behind the levers, that made me realize how much I
> like that position.
>
> Have you seen this
> <http://biketouringnews.com/components-touring-bicycles/cockpit/touring-bike-handlebars/nitto-dirt-drop-handlebars/>page
> from Bike Touring News comparing Nitto's flared bars? Since you seem to be
> flexible on clamp diameter, you could add those to your list. I have the
> RM-13's and love em'. The 14's look nice and I may those on a more
> dirt-oriented bike that will have a 31.8mm stem.
>
> Darin
>
> On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 2:13:12 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:
>>
>> My search began with a quest, essentially, for a flared Noodle - and the
>> feature I like the most about the Noodle is probably the reach - I use the
>> long-ish ramp as my standard hand position, it's where I'm most
>> comfortable, and it allows me to stretch out further onto the hoods when I
>> need to stretch out, and sit upright on the flats. I've been out of town
>> for a few days, but I expect to put some miles on the Ritchey Venturemax in
>> the next few days. If it doesn't work out, I'll try the Gary Sweep OS bars,
>> which claim to be 44cm, but they seem just similar in width to the other
>> bars. If those don't work, I guess I'm going to buy a new Noodle.
>>
>> Here's a somewhat top-down pic of the bars I'm working through next to a
>> 46cm Noodle:
>> Gary Sweep OS 44cm
>> Salsa Cowchipper 46cm
>> Ritchey Venturmax 46 cm
>> Nitto Noodle 46cm
>>
>> [image: IMG_0531.HEIC]
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:26 PM 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> Thanks for posting the spreadsheet; that looks like a lot of work. Have
>>> you looked at the Soma Highway 1 Bar? It doesn't flare, but it does have a
>>> short reach and drop. I replaced the original Nitto bars on my old Santana
>>> Noventa with Hwy 1 because of their short reach, 26mm clamp, and silver
>>> finish.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
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