it does what I described, dehydrating rust, more aggressively passivating the metal surface using citric or dilute phosphoric acid. If you clean it well and don't have a lot of residual chloride, then paint it, it should hold up.
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 12:41:17 PM UTC-5, George Schick wrote: > > Speaking of rust, since we're on the subject and metallurgy experts have > been chiming in, what is the prevailing opinion of some of these products > on the market nowadays that supposedly turn rust into a hard material that > supposedly restores the rusted areas to something like the original > surface? I tried some of that stuff on a rusting vehicle I owed several > decades ago (when those products first became available) and I was less > than impressed by the results. Not sure what chemical processes take place > with those products, but it always sounded too good to be true - and that > was my experience. > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:13:58 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: >> >> Reed, no worries at all - I had a point to get across, and had to revert >> to my profession to make it. My 44-y-o Raleigh is not treated, but I >> bought it new, and it's never been stored even in the garage - always >> inside. >> The marks on the paint are where my younger daughter used it for her >> indoor gym. >> >> On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 10:46:19 PM UTC-5, Reed Kennedy wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 8:07 PM Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> And having one data point is much less than the population of bicycle >>>> frames. >>>> >>> Hey Ron, thank you for your thoughtful, educated, and thorough posts on >>> this topic. I, for one, have tremendously enjoyed reading them and have >>> learned a good deal, specifically about the differences between various >>> types of steel oxidation. >>> >>> I didn't mean to imply that these pictures are proof that protecting the >>> inside of a bicycle's frame tubes from corrosion is never worthwhile under >>> any circumstances. I don't believe that. That's why I was careful to learn >>> as much of the history of the frame pictured as I could, and to spell it >>> all out in my post. >>> >>> Personally, before I cut up this frame I had zero data points. I figure >>> many folks on the forum are in a similar position. Now we have one data >>> point. I hope that's better? And not just enough knowledge to be dangerous. >>> >>> Myself, I live in the same place this frame was ridden. So the >>> information is especially helpful to me. The question in my mind was >>> whether I should disassemble a bike I bought new for $1,200 just to apply >>> Frame Saver. I don't think I will. On the other hand, next time I take it >>> apart for some other reason I will go ahead and treat it. >>> >>> For me, protecting the inside of the tubes from rust isn't a "do" or >>> "don't" question. It's a "rush" or "do when convenient" question. >>> >>> I figure I can hold off until I wear out the headset and bottom bracket, >>> and do it then. There's so little downside! And I like the idea that others >>> will enjoy these bicycles well past my own time here. >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> Reed >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
