On 07/04/2018 06:27 AM, Richard wrote:


IMHO, not that anyone is asking, Grant should separate his politics from his business. Though you would never know it from this google group, not all purchasers of Rivendell bikes, myself included, share his political leanings.

Older consumers tend to have more disposable income, and tend to be more conservative. Why deliberately alienate them? We're not heartless, selfish monsters just because we're not liberal Democrats.

No, you are a heartless selfish monster because you support a policy that itself is cruel, indecent, heartless: in a word, monstrous.

And don't think for one microsecond that only "liberal Democrats" oppose the policy.  Consider for a moment this recent Washington Post column by Jennifer Rubin, as genuinely conservative a columnist as ever there was:


         Decency wins — and Trump gets smacked down

   
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/06/27/decency-wins-and-trump-gets-smacked-down/?utm_term=.eee2d31d21cd

   by Jennifer Rubin
   <https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/jennifer-rubin/> June 27

   On the same day that the Supreme Court upheld President Trump’s
   travel ban in a tortured ruling, a district court judge hearing a
   suit on behalf of a class of migrants separated from their children
   struck a blow for common decency and family reunification. The Post
   reports
   
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/27/federal-judge-enjoins-separation-of-migrant-children-orders-family-reunification/?utm_term=.dc125046de16>:

       Judge Dana M. Sabraw of the United States District Court for the
       Southern District of California granted a preliminary injunction
       sought by the American Civil Liberties Union. He said all
       children must be reunited with their families within 30 days,
       allowing just 14 days for the return of children under 5 to
       their parents. He ordered that parents must be entitled to speak
       by phone with their children within 10 days.

   The court slammed the administration
   
<https://www.aclu.org/legal-document/ms-l-v-ice-order-granting-plaintiffs-motion-classwide-preliminary-injunction>
   for “a chaotic circumstance of the Government’s own making.” Sabraw,
   appointed by President George W. Bush, found: “This
   situation has reached a crisis level. The news media is saturated
   with stories of immigrant families being separated at the border.
   People are protesting. Elected officials are weighing in. Congress
   is threatening action. Seventeen states have now filed a complaint
   against the Federal Government challenging the family separation
   practice.”

   In issuing an injunction, the court found there was a likelihood
   that the plaintiffs would succeed on a due process claim. (“We are a
   country of laws, and of compassion. We have plainly stated our
   intent to treat refugees with an ordered process, and benevolence,
   by codifying principles of asylum.  The Government’s treatment . . .
   [of] class members does not meet this standard, and it is unlikely
   to pass constitutional muster.”) The court continued:

       The practice of separating these families was implemented
       without any effective system or procedure for (1) tracking the
       children after they were separated from their parents, (2)
       enabling communication between the parents and their children
       after separation, and (3) reuniting the parents and children
       after the parents are returned to immigration
       custody following completion of their criminal sentence. This is
       a startling reality. The government readily keeps track of
       personal property of detainees in criminal and immigration
       proceedings. Money, important documents, and automobiles, to
       name a few, at all levels — state and federal, citizen and
       alien. Yet, the government has no system in place to keep track
       of , provide effective communication with, and promptly produce
       alien children. The unfortunate reality is that under the
       present system migrant children are not accounted for with the
       same efficiency and accuracy as property. Certainly, that cannot
       satisfy the requirements of due process.

   The court cited at length the findings of the Children’s Defense
   Fund regarding the extensive harm done to children forcibly
   separated from their parents. The court expressed the shock and
   dismay many ordinary Americans are feeling:

       The facts set forth before the Court portray
       reactive governance — responses to address a chaotic
       circumstance of the Government’s own making. They belie measured
       and ordered governance, which is central to the concept of due
       process enshrined in our Constitution. This is particularly so
       in the treatment of migrants, many of whom are asylum seekers
       and small children. The extraordinary remedy of classwide
       preliminary injunction is warranted based on the evidence before
       the Court.

   In contrast to the Supreme Court’s travel ban ruling, constructed to
   avoid identifying the president as an abject racist whose intent
   should have invalidated his executive order, this court did not
   avert its eyes. In ordering the reunification of children younger
   than 5 within 14 days, older children within 30 days and a halt to
   child separation, the judge followed a long tradition recognizing
   that anyone here — illegally or not — enjoys the benefits of
   ordered, fair government. (The entire country has been deprived of
   that under this president.) In this instance, the American people
   can be proud of their judiciary.

   Consider, if you will, the Justice Department lawyer arguing in
   effect, “No, really, we can treat these kids worse than property.”
   Justice Department attorneys need to seriously consider their
   professional and own moral code of conduct in continuing to defend
   the administration’s inhumane practices. One hopes that every
   Justice Department lawyer will read the opinion, reflect on the
   judge’s admonitions and in the future refuse to sign on to briefs or
   undertake oral arguments in defense of barbarism. In the meantime, a
   significant victory for real family values and constitutional
   government has been won.


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