Rich just sold 4 Silver hubs with the steel freehub body on a first come
first serve basis.

I am one of the lucky recipients :)

Next time the wheel is rebuilt on my Road Standard (which happens every 2-3
years as I destroy rims with some regularity) it will be with a Silver hub!

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 6:44 PM Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some aluminum freehubs put a small steel strip on the load bearing part of
> the gear mating profile. Seems like a good idea.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:50 AM 'Montgomery Engel' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I think that’s probably right. I contacted Rivendell and they do not have
>> and did not know of any cromo replacements. I think there are more alloy
>> freehub bodies out there that are compatible, but I think I’m just going to
>> ride this freehub into the ground, i.e., until I can’t get the cassettes
>> off or I have to rebuild the wheel and then decide whether to chance it
>> with another alloy body or get another hub. I sort of doubt KT is going to
>> be making a cromo replacement.
>> It seems to me this is an engineering error. The softer alloy splines are
>> the same depth as the harder cromo splines in the Shimamo compatible
>> bodies. It strikes me that they should have increased their depth to
>> compensate for the weaker metal. Instead, no surprise, it seems like their
>> answer was to use pricier, interlocking cassettes that are probably less
>> likely to cut the splines, but I’d so much rather have a bulletproof but
>> heavier freehub body and keep using reasonably priced cassettes that I
>> think probably wear at similar rates to the cheap ones!
>> Thanks for the thoughts on this.
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I looked at that Ben's Cycle listing for a SRAM freehub.  I'd bet a
>> dollar that IF it's really gold in color, like that picture, that it is not
>> in fact steel.  I don't know of a way to make steel be that color.  That's
>> a picture of an aluminum freehub body.  If the item you are actually buying
>> looks alot different from the photo, then maybe it's steel.  They might be
>> referring to the drivering itself, with the ratchet splines, which most
>> certainly is steel.
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 12:40:55 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been researching the possibility of getting a cromo freehub body
>>> for Silver hubs and haven't actually come up with a solution but do have a
>>> couple of leads:
>>>
>>> 1. After some sleuthing I have come to believe that the Silver hubs were
>>> manufactured by KT, a Taiwanese company that manufacturers hubs for a
>>> number of other brands, and whose website used to show a cromoly
>>> replacement freehub with the same mechanism as the Silver ones.  I emailed
>>> them about the possibility of getting one in the U.S. and was directed to
>>> HiFi wheels, a boutique wheel builder in Portland whom I assume is a North
>>> American agent for KT.  They don't list the freehub bodies on their
>>> website, and they never responded to my email inquiry.  You may have better
>>> luck--let us know if you do!
>>>
>>> http://ridehifi.com/
>>>
>>> 2. I have recently discovered that the SRAM S40/60/80 wheels seem to
>>> have used a KT hub with the same freehub mechanism, and that there is a
>>> replacement freehub body out there that looks like the Silver one and is
>>> listed as being steel:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.benscycle.com/sram-s406080-910-speed-freehub-body-and-seal/freehub_body_sram_freehub_bodies_8116_fw4553/product
>>>
>>> (It's listed in the QBP catalog and thus is available from a number of
>>> vendors, this is just the first one that showed the material).  Buying this
>>> was going to be my next attempt (haven't do so yet), but I will say that I
>>> have no idea if it is actually going to work on a Silver hub and if it is
>>> indeed steel. If you buy one, let us know how it works out!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 10:59:12 AM UTC-7, Montgomery Engel
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, does anyone know the answer to Jim's question, below, re: replacing
>>>> the alloy freehub body with a cro-mo one on Silver hubs? I removed
>>>> my cassette last night with great difficulty to discover rather large
>>>> grooves in the splines cut by the cassette. Grateful for any advice.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 4:21:09 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Question is, can a steel replacement be obtained?  A prior post
>>>>> pointed out a 6 pawl cro-mo freehub from the same manufacturer, is it a
>>>>> direct fit?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://o-lite.com.tw/news.php?m=d&id=16&p=1
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The prevailing worry is your cassette cogs will dig into the splines
>>>>>> and make it difficult to remove your cassette down the line.  It's a 
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> common thing for riders like us to just say "enough, I'm never buying an
>>>>>> alloy cassette body again".  It's one of the reasons many of us think 
>>>>>> Deore
>>>>>> XT from the late 90's early 00's were so great.  So many of them that 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are really cheap.  Still made in Japan so they were good quality.  Steel
>>>>>> axles and steel driveshells so your gears come off easy, no matter what 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> do.  The only acceptable lightweight alternative for many is Ti (white
>>>>>> industries, Dura Ace).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Rich says they are nice then I trust they are nice, but many in
>>>>>> this group will hear alloy drive shell and will steer clear.  It's a 
>>>>>> fact.
>>>>>> I'd probably give them a shot, but if Riv had asked me to spec their 
>>>>>> Silver
>>>>>> rear hub, I would have advised a steel driveshell for this reason.  One
>>>>>> less thing to have to talk about.  The gram savings mean nothing in the
>>>>>> context of a Rivendell.  Maybe this particular alloy driveshell is "just 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> rugged", or close enough, but maybe it's not.  Steel would not have been
>>>>>> less rugged, and would have been heavier.  The handwringers will wring
>>>>>> hands more over alloy than they would have over the heavier weight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 12:38:47 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, does anyone think they can wear out the alloy freehub body? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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